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Hello everybody and welcome to the Rdm podcast my name is Rabbi Daniel Malinga
Is it possible?
That if you operate just with these five senses you're operating far below what God intended
Is it possible that there are people out there?
Operating in supernatural abilities far beyond what our mind can comprehend
We think so
We're going to show you a preamble before I introduce the guests in the studio check this out
While most of the surgeries performed are described as invisible by the people at the Casa some visitors hopped for physical operation
Shroud performs these surgeries without anaesthetic and yet most people report that they feel no pain
The explanations I still don't fully comprehend but I was watching a man
Who was making incisions with an ordinary life like a routine kitchen life on sterilized I
Felt when he cut but nothing painful
Some burning but nothing like excruciating or horrible, but I felt because I wanted to feel
But what I felt the most was
When he squeezed out something I felt really something
Black coming out of my heart like a thorn it's something that every step of my life was
Slowing me down like a thorn
How is this taking place without infection
How is this taking place without blood loss and how are people not screaming their heads off when he inserts
They need to do the stitching and making the incisions
Many say that this is anesthesia put it in your mouth, but what does it taste like?
Agra
The mark came from California not because of any illness, but looking for proof of the existence of God
I felt cold steel going up and then I felt him just shove it with all his strength and I felt
excruciating pain I
Felt just so calm and even when I had the thought he's in your brain
Which is what my thought was and I saw yellow bright yellow and I got this bitter taste in my mouth as I had the thought
He's in your brain
I
Well
No, it did not look like it would rough it up your head was tilted back
Yeah, he did go in and then looks like he did maybe
Changed the angle. Let's look at again, but also there's an inch of there that it's not in the nose
Through that boy that is long isn't it? It's long
Well, thank you
Okay, that's the back of the sinus okay, that's how much space I have and that's about what it looks like in Netters Anatomy
Do you want to go to the internet this afternoon and I'll pull up a side sagittal view of the
Baffled me as to how people actually were not getting infection
Because having worked in the third war myself if I had done anything like that
When I proposed there are conditions there would be a bacteria
Some people who I spoke with were able to remember the events going around them
Completely and so some people seem to enter a sort of altered state during these surgeries some people do not
When I was assisting in one of the surgeries he cut this woman's cornea
She didn't flinch. She didn't try to
Pull away from him and she was able to answer his questions and speak with him while
While he was performing the surgery
She did report some mild pain at the end, but then he
Places hand over her eye and the pain was gone. I can't explain that
Is your gift powerful enough to save lives? Yeah, absolutely
This is Charlie Goldsmith at work. He claims he can cure the sick without even touching them. What are you doing?
Amazing arthritis
Infections chronic pain and much more
Charlie says he can heal them all with just his energy and he does it for free a
Lot of people sitting at home watching this will be shaking their heads thinking what a crock
This guy is either a con artist or he's crazy
Mm-hmm. Are you a con artist? They're two obviously really great options to choose from are you a con artist?
I'm not a con artist and I don't believe I'm crazy either
They feel good
He then took our newspaper outside and showed us how she can also be used to set things on fire
When he heard we'd shown this footage in public
He was very upset and refused all our future efforts to contact him again as the I hear
best adapted spring day
And uh, I hear
The one who takes it I hear in here call me by your name
And the Oscar goes to
James Ivory
I hear best animated
Then I see
See oh see oh Coco Coco is for best animated feature film
And the Oscar goes to be well at in America
I see
The one who takes the production design best production design
The shape of what the movie the shape of what and the Oscar goes to
The shape of water
Welcome back
What a preamble I'm going to introduce the people in the studio with me
Before we go deep into the topic
On my left is
Afimani McLean business man guru. He's no stranger to the studio. I feel many welcome always good to be here on my right is
A person who's new to the studio has a lot of insight a post. Oh, Enoch Makoko over love fellowship ministries
I post I know you're welcome. Thank you very much rabbi and on my far left also not a stranger to the studio
He's been here before Apostle Abraham Mirembe
Affiliated with watchman ministries a ministry that focuses on teaching the entire message Apostle Abraham. You're welcome
Thank you dear. It's always a blessing to be
This studio is amazing. Amen. Amen. All right gentlemen
We're going to go into a discussion that I find very interesting. We've watched the preamble. All of us have watched it
different segments of different people showing different abilities and we're going to be discussing
Supernatural abilities
We're going to be discussing the capacity that the human being has we're going to be discussing if if it's possible
And what the Bible has to say about it. All right
To start with it. What do you say about what you've just watched?
I think you very much rabbi Daniel, thank you for putting this
Podcasts together what we have just seen
Especially with the dr. Guy
His name is John of God by the way John of God. That's what he calls himself
So that's mind-blowing
But the question is when someone is doing something like that, would you call that a gift of healing?
Would you call it witchcraft? Would you call it? What would you call it? I would call it the gift of healing, you know, I'm
Arab by healing manifests in different forms
Doctors are also, you know, you know using that but you know using academic and things like that
But this guy here. Yes, something spiritual what you just tell me the old
for someone going through your nose
with
Scissors with a scissor he puts like three quarters of that inside
Which can't fold and then somehow someone does not enter into
A coma or something because the organs that really are above your nose, do you know what organs are there?
You have the puttisserie glands in there. So how come that this guy put the scissor in there?
Penetrated the puttisserie guy and removed the tumor
That is completely supernatural and consider what about what about the knife and cleaning out the eye cleaning out the corner with the eye
Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. Now that is what we ought to do
That is where we are going and actually much more than that is what we are going to demonstrate
Apostle say something about what we've just watched before we go deeper. Well, I think this is a really awakening to
The child of God, I'm going to look at it first in that
You see we have lived in denial for a long time even as a church and all people that these things don't exist
But now when you you look at this you realize that
There is just a thin layer between the physical world and the spiritual day like
What separates you is just I think what we call awakenness because
When you look at this like John of God like a man who operates without computers and what you know
And you know the interesting thing is that doctors are there watching him live
Yes, trying to understand how he does it. Yes, and they cannot in their biological understanding of the physique
They can't understand now. It will it is an awakening that
for a long time we have lived in denial of these powers these powers are there and
before even look at
Them from the dark point of view because the Bible says that God is the father of all speeds and
All spirituality sources from him
Before you look at Lucifer, I just want to say this before you look at Lucifer because even Lucifer himself
originates from God and whatsoever he has to use it. He's toasted from
God actually
He's he was at an advantage because he was first there to see what takes place and taps into
So to me
When you look at this it is an awakening call it there is the heavens are beckoning
Happy money, I don't what you've just seen
Amazing stuff, but first of all even when you're saying it's doctors who are failing to understand what's going on
Let's not leave it at that. Let's understand. These are Harvard doctors doctors from Harvard
I needed to say that because there's some people who exalt some institutions so high
But even Harvard couldn't figure that out. Yes
So what we're dealing with is amazing for me what I find interesting is and this is what I want to learn also from all of us
Here is we're in the last days and in the last days
The spirit of God will be poured out and we'll do mighty exploits. Yeah now when you watch something like this for me
I'm just here seated thinking how
Nice it would be for us to just
Consume this without having to touch those cups in front of us and just have that come into us or for us to be able to
Do things without us being there physically and things like that, but this is this is amazing if
If you're not a believer after watching this, I don't know what what's wrong with you
And you see you see I want us to start somewhere because we've all given comments on what we've just seen
The first guy is called John of God. Now John of God if you have followed this guy for a while
In Brazil years ago. He's been doing this for 40 years. It's amazing how a large percentage of the world do not know him
But John of God well the people call him John of God. He uses spiritual powers
He says it outrightly and what John of God does is not affiliated directly to God. It's
He's he's in essence two people
There's the John before the spirit is activated
Who when he's when he's there, he doesn't know how these healing things take place?
Then there's the John after
The street
Now what he does is so amazing to such an extent that that
Oprah
Oprah had to go down to Brazil because he's situated in Brazil had to go all the way down to Brazil
To interview him and see it for herself
Okay, the the biggest skeptics in the world doctors and what have gone down there and can't figure out and definitely is using a
Spirit he says it himself. He says 35 spirits enter him
To enable him to do this. There are pictures that have been taken of those spirits as they're entering him
On camera, but we talk about that summer because okay, so that's John of God. The other guy Charlie
is
He's a person who uses energy to heal
Okay, he doesn't affiliate with God doesn't affiliate with the devil. He's just using
energy and
To him people are getting healed. They're calling him a corn artist, but he doesn't ask for money
He just has this interesting gift according to him and people get healed. All right, then we have
the clip of the Chinese man
Using chi to set paper on fire
Wow, and this is a recorded event. It was live recorded
Okay, then finally we have the man of God prophet of this morning
Yes, right in front of thousands of thousands of people
Professing in January
Professing in January things that have not yet that have not yet come to pass in the Oscars
So all these are different categories because I wanted a man of God. I wanted a person who did not know what on earth
They did not have any affiliate any logical affiliation with a God or the devil. They're just doing something
Then I wanted someone who had mastered an art like the Chinese man. Then I wanted someone used by the enemy
So that we can discuss
Interesting
Now I want us to start from
Are we all capable of
Superhuman feats I
Believe we are what is stopping us I
Think I think you know
Arrabbi, let's start here, you know all of us here have ever had a supernatural
Experience happening to them
But after that thing happened
They wanted now to use things like logic to
To probably explain it
Okay, I think you ever been there you think about someone and that person calls you
So what have you invoked at that moment?
Oh, I think you ever been there you you go to sleep you dream when you're getting let's say
20,000 and you're waking up like this and you see a message you you've received 20,000 shillings
So what is that what about what about?
You're talking about someone in a room and then they they walk in
Or you are thinking about someone and they call you or what about you feel
That someone is behind you. You haven't seen them
And the two degrees to that you turn and the person you felt is actually behind you or sometimes you turn
There's no one there. Yes, but in essence you are actually feeling someone actually feeling yes
Let's say okay. Let's say now you've gone to sleep
You know post-abraham. Yeah, just as you close your eyes you begin to feel a
being
Drunk laws drug laws drug laws now even you open your eyes
And you can see it there. Yeah
You see the support is surreal art like I'm let me tell you a live event today in the morning
I had a meeting before
but
When I woke up this gentleman I'm supposed to meet I start to drive out of my home and
I'm calling his phone to make sure he's there or he's coming and he's not picking
Immediately after he's not picking I put down the phone
Meanwhile, I'm driving then I start to see him
Which I called my thoughts. I start to see me in a deep sleep
In a very deep sleep
This is with your thoughts. Yes. Yes, but then I brush it off. I'm like
He knows I have a meeting with him the apostle is going to meet you
So you have to you know
Now I reached a place where it's supposed to be and the guy is not there. I
Hold my phone again, and then it comes back to me again, and I see the guy in a deep sleep, you know
Then I call him and he's not picking and and I
Now I knew it was not in my thoughts now. Guess what I drive off
where we're supposed to meet and
As I reach somewhere
He finds my missed calls and then he calls and say apostle. I'm sorry. I've been sleeping. I came back in the moon
You see that yes, I'm like, okay, I knew it and you know like I just brushed it off
There is that knowledge you were asking as a why are we not here? I believe
We are so much overshadowed by
the intellect, you know the reasoning the realm of reasoning
Which actually does not align with the spirit realm a the realm of physical reasoning
Then we are we are we find ourselves not cautious
Awakened to the realities that come to us
Because people should remember that we are a spirit being in flesh. Yeah, you understand
So your spirit man is active to a certain world
But because he's in flesh and flesh is ruled by intellect and what reasoning so there is that
Colline which tries to hinder him to cause you to live that life
You understand, but rather you being a spirit
You are supposed to be connected to the things which happen in this way and those things are higher than the things which happen
But in the physical you see in line with that. I'm going to come to you
Maki I
Think it's important because when we're discussing things like this. We set a few biblical foundations
So the Bible says in Thessalonians that we are spirit soul
And body they start from there
And the fact that all these guys that have shown you that we showed you in the preamble all of them are human beings as far as we know
so they're all human beings and
The potential or the ability that they have is possible because they are spirit
Soul and body now according to scripture man was made in the image and likeness
That means the possibilities of God are also possible
To man. Yes. Okay, Maki. Yeah, and just that and what
Apostle was saying here the consciousness. I love I love that that that subject of consciousness
When you look at God himself
He is a hundred percent in spirit and
So his level of consciousness in terms of his abilities because is in the spirit is at a hundred and over
percent, okay for us as humans because like he said we have mental walls at some point our
Potential or our level of consciousness is way below here
So even the potential that we have to do things is never maximized because we never operate in our fullness of
What we can do so and we know this because I love meditation
I use it a lot
It's a it's a spiritual craft that I've learned to her nest because I believe all of us are not I
Don't know will will ask I don't know if all of us have the ability to do everything
Every, you know every possible spiritual, you know feet or anything like that
I have found that for example when you're meditating and you
Fully zoning and your level of consciousness in meditating is at the highest level
It's possible for you to manifest the things that we're talking about here
I remember a story that you shared with us some time back about the lady who constantly was thinking about a snack
That's not a snack and then the next day she wakes up and there's a live snack right outside
And that door and that was just because she's zoned in a hundred percent and that was possible
So I think for us as humans the limitation is from our mental worlds that at some point
We are not really believing that it's possible or we are not dedicating ourselves to sharpen
You know those spiritual gifts that at the end of the day it becomes like second nature to us
You know I came across a guy the other day last week
And he was telling me rabbi
These things are so real the power of the consciousness is so real. Yeah that his brother
Had been going through a lot of things in life, so he constantly said I want to die
I want to die. I want to die constantly said it one day. He went to sleep and he got out of his body
And he saw himself dead
So he said that in the next day to cut the story short
he was sent back into his body and
up to now he's like
If there's anyone who knows the power of suggestion, yes, it's him
Okay, now if that can happen to someone who really wants to die physically imagine the negative words that a person speaks and
All those things and the influence they have
You see there is something that is very crucial here that we should we shouldn't know you say something about
Us being made in the image and like the likeness the likeness of God that means we have the template of God
The real God in us, you understand it because what God did was to put himself on earth
Through us by Adam. Yes, that is according to scripture the book of Genesis
But there is something I wanted you to he I wanted us here to hint on which he has actually hinted on
Do you know that these days when you go to places like Asia where they don't know Christ and everything?
people do a lot of
Meditation a lot actually it's like they are daily life and
You know, even though they don't know what they are practicing a spiritual principle. It is very powerful. Yes, correct
That's what I say that we have to awaken ourselves to these things
lead
You know the Bible speaks about meditation. Yes in the book of
Joshua
Meditate now in the beginning the first teachers. That's why I say awakenness
You know awakenness also comes with the knowledge. You understand that you receive about something having a knowledge about something
You understand for example
If I don't know something it may not really affect me because I don't
There's a time when I was having my area and I never knew that I have it
But I had a few symptoms
But I could brush it off, you know, I would connect it to any other thing and as long as I never had that knowledge
I was not awakened to it. It was not affecting until my wife tells me you go and taste it
Now the moment I tasted like this and they saw my lady
I started to feel the same coming strong on me. You understand
So you in essence you're saying that awareness is very key to
Because what I wanted to bring in awareness is this the first I'm bringing it from the church perspective the history perspective
The people who used to teach us meditation according to that were telling us to think
But that was beyond thinking
Because when you go and and study that scripture
Joshua he's really telling them to meditate to contemplate to to create
vision
To create images of what instructions he gives them you understand and he said in that way you will make your way
Prosperous and I want in line with that just in case because someone might be watching and sing. What is this? Yes?
We want to distinguish the meditation of the world
Yes, from that that is within the confines of Christianity. Yes
Especially in Asia when they meditate they
empty themselves
Understand they totally empty themselves and from a biblical perspective. Yeah, if you empty yourself something
But now he gives them what to
Yes, these things made it up on them. Yes. So these are the things which you used to craft
Okay, the prosperous way, but they are spiritual
We're going to get we're going to get that there's something I want to I want to ask Apostle Enoch because I find it interesting
Then we're going to discuss it. Yes. So we've seen different kinds of people crafting. Yes, definitely
They've crafted to be able to achieve their feats
But they are all different. There's one who doesn't know anything about God
There's one who's affiliated to an enemy the devil and there's one who's affiliated to God and the one who mastered
spiritual crafting and set things on fire
Let me ask
When someone for example, let's use the guy who the Chinese man who is using Chi Chi is a form of energy
right
Is is that demonic or godly?
Is it possible for someone to do something that is not necessarily affiliated to God or the devil?
Anyway, thank you very much
Everyone of us is born
Inetabilities the inherent. Yes, they're inherent. We come to us from God
Now those abilities even can manifest to someone whether they know the Lord or they don't know. Okay. Yeah, okay
You see that for example rabbi you I'm sure you have ever been at a place where
Before your mother either fell sick like you knew it that she was going to fall sick yet at that time you had you had not given yourself
You know, you know to the Lord. Yeah, how did you know that thing now?
You see that now when you come to the Lord now you begin to harness now those
You know that you know those abilities and they keep expanding from one level to another now
Even there are people that actually don't know the Lord and they've harnessed them. They have honest like the other day
I saw monks
Who are put in a in a in a freezing room?
Then they get their clothes and they go and put these clothes in
in in very cold water
Then they begin filming them a
Few minutes, you know, they get the clothes they they are completely naked
They warp those clothes in a few minutes those clothes begin to to produce steam in a freezing room
Then they will ask the question that how did you do that that we're seeing fire entering us
You see this so it literally they were envisioning they were envisioning something yeah now
Now for us now the children of God we actually on the upper hand
Because we are coming from from a spiritual kingdom and everything when you read
The Bible the Bible is actually a spiritual craft
You imagine how you know God comes and begins to create all these things and when he's creating them
He's actually enjoying them
But then he reached a moment where he said now I'm not going to just keep creating these things
I'm going to produce something that looks exactly like me that will operate exactly like me
But for it, it's going to have a certain form of the earth
See now he created us
Now when Adam was in that garden Adam did not physically go and dig
That's before the fall. That's before the fall you imagine he did not go and physically actually start a pruning
After the fall now
That's when the physicality came in now physicality comes in
You know he begins to hear the voice of God then he you know
He begins to hide is you know
His awareness is awakened to his nakedness all of a sudden he had his wife
He was seeing her breasts and you there was nothing completely now after the fall
Man the guy is completely messed up
So all these abilities are born in us and actually this podcast is to just trigger those things to begin
Operating in us. Okay, so let me because he has talked out
He has touched it in the in the sense that we all have specific abilities someone without God without connection to the devil directly
Or to God can be able to harness these spiritual abilities and be able to operate, you know, I look
The other day I came across someone and many of us since we're in Africa. I want us to focus a certain apostle will come in
Since we're in Africa
Africa Africa Asia like the hub of spiritual
Yes, no, um, there's a lady who came to me. She said rabbi. I want to understand something
when ha chairs two children
When her recent child was born an auntie came to her and
said
When you're when you're bathing the newborn for the first time
Get a cup of water
from from from, you know
The water they have that water. Yes. Yes. It's okay though. Yeah, get the cup of water
Yeah, he said when you're bathing your older child
Go pour that water into the water of that older child and
bathe that child with it
And he said your children
Will never argue
They will always be friends. I said rabbi
My children are now grown up. They've never they never argue. They are friends
And she said rabbi is that demonic?
Is that?
Is that godly?
What kind of crafted is that you know now rabbi? This is it now when
now
Apostle when the Lord called Moses. Yes, Moses was as natural as he is
Yeah
Then the Lord now begins to take him like a step higher than the natural. He told him now I'm going to
You know to just cut this veil away from you and you're going to start operating
Then he asks him as if he doesn't know what he was holding. He said what is that in your hand?
He said this is an iPhone. Okay, put it on the ground. He put it on the ground
The iPhone turned into a paper or something then the guy runs away from it. He said don't run
Actually, that is your paper not my word
Then he begins telling him how to
dominate elements
you know
Okay, now all of us are taking
You know a drink from this cup
But you know that if there is anyone of us here sick or something and we give them to take this that they're going to be healed
What have we just done? We've just transferred a spiritual power into a physical element
You understand that so now what that lady did actually just went and an instructed element on how to operate
No, but the thing is the reason why I was bringing it up is because
Someone else just told her to do it. She had no knowledge. She's just following instruction. You understand
Yes, and the thing is working out by itself
Now there is something about
African things
Now when you look at all now, do you know that
The question you have asked most of the things which are put in that water they have a meaning
They don't just go and get a hub and help you and they put like every hub like for example going to my knowledge
It has a meaning
There is a hub that carries
That is so true
Rabbi when God was creating all these
Also like everything like had had those things that now when you mix them up for example someone has gone in a shrine
And they will ask you for elements. They are going to use to either cast a charm or
To you know, you know to use something they will say what do you have bring you go bring water gotten from a spring
Now when they bring the water
Now this spiritual man
Let's say now the sorcerer will will instruct that water to operate in in a what in a particular way
Now they will say now every time you take this water favor will come up
But let me explain something you see I want to interject
Then we should understand from the biblical point of view
That there is a time that the Bible talks about
When the watchers
Watchers
Fail oh and how does it explain how they fail angels fail the angels who are called the watchers
They came and they they are falling mainly
Was in the line because the Bible quotes only when they started to add the Maya the women the women of
Men
But now
Enok the book of Enok which is not in the book which is not a Bible tells us the other things they did
They started to teach men crafting how to craft you understand how to charm and these are spirit beings sourcing
Knowledge from the realm of God and teaching it and why was God not happy of course
I want people to understand there because that's where we should differentiate the
God wanted to people to know the things but from the point of people
Worshipping God you understand and falling in love with God such that God remains the sovereign
But now these
Watchers they start to teach now. That's where we get all the things we are seeing in our generation
There are knowledges that we are sourced in those days
My men who worship those fallen angels
So now these men could know that these hubs actually end up points it out very well that they taught them the knowledge of hubs
Like these things are the green hubs. They would tell them that this one can do this and do that
But now God wanted man
The real man to get that knowledge out of his love and passion for God
You understand not sourcing it from any other, you know, whatever so this is where we get the difference
Also, you remember that question you asked us
Like we get it. We should understand because they are main like the three scenarios. We have seen
Who like Prophet Elvis?
Source whatever they speak or the future. They are they are telling us from the real realm of God
Which glorifies God and now that's what really good ones say now
They are also men who like they just don't know but because
The they are not on side of God. They are not on the side of the devil
But now they are born spirit. Let's remember
Go to Jema that before you were created in your mother's
There are certain things we are born with even with or without our knowledge. I
Remember when I was young before I received Jesus Christ
Our dad was a very tough man. So whenever he was coming or he was about to come
We are playing I'll tell my my friends that you stop playing that is about to come
That's where is he and he's not anywhere. You're feeling give me a few minutes like
He comes in and you beat everyone and me I'm safe. I told you and then sometimes they tell me how do you get to know?
But I was young but I had I remember very well. I would
Come
But you know to explain that so you've helped us give mocking wanted to add to this because my my my thing
Is that there's probably someone out there and it's it's very strange. I
Gave him an example the same lady who told me about the water. Yeah, she told me high young daughter was
Seven years old was developing faster
Than no more. Okay, so she was starting to get breasts at a very young age
Yes, so she called the same auntie and the auntie said just get her one of these inner gowns
tie
For a few seconds and then tie they won't come back
Until you're ready for them to come you tie and die they will come said rabbi it happened now
I want to
Maki I want to know what because you see the thing is it it doesn't look like there's any
Crafting inside there. It's just an act, but if someone else came to do it
It would not use the same result
I get what just feed into that
The question I want to ask in relation to that because it's also what I think about when Apostle was speaking and he laid a good foundation for it
my question is
when someone for example like the guys who
What is not the guy who has healing the healer when he was healing them and they're receiving this healing innocently
okay
What does
What's the meaning of that? What's the implication of that? They are not associating it with good God or the devil
You're just innocently receiving it and then is it possible for someone to have a spiritual gift and not be sure
Which of these two sides it's from or it has not been yet revealed to him
But he's operating from it just like the healer because he's not sure if he's here or he's there for him
All he just believes is he has this thing inside him and he can do that now at the end of the day
We've all said and we've all agreed here that we have the God DNA in us
Now what he is unerasing is that power which is close to what the Chinese girl is doing the chi the source of energy
Within him is what he's using to cause the healing in someone else's body
You understand it's the same thing that you are saying I can transfer my power
Into this my energy into that and when he touches that you'll have the effect
Okay, this is why the man of God or man of God can also say give me something I
Release energy on it. Yes, then you
Let me throw a spanner in the works, you know
Someone is not healed in Jesus's name. Are they healed?
You know I'm rabbi on the podcast the last
Person that we saw was prof. Elvis Bonnie. I
Prof. Elvis Bonnie
You know told us of a certain experience. He had before even he knew the Lord
He was relating with this girl
You know in high school and you understand now a guy comes from outside
the
Guy writes this girl a letter
You know what?
Prof. Elvis comes before now he is now the prophet he comes he tells the girl bring that later
No, actually first reads word-by-word
Yeah, without seeing the letter without seeing the letter
Yes, when the lady when the girl goes and brings the letter the guy, you know
Prophet is also like, you know astounded on on the accuracy on how even he managed to you know
I think now the lady just felt like I think this guy is just weird
Now that time he didn't know that he was actually what a prophet
So in that case what he did if it was let's say healing or something was that wrong?
No, no, no, no, it is not of it is not it is not wrong for us to walk in any form of spirituality
but
That you know that that foundation of our spirituality should be on the right foundation
If it is on there if it is on the foundation of God then God is glorified if it is in the other side it will you know
It will you know ask, you know, it will it will it will lead people also in a particular you understand
Yeah, but my question still stands
Yes, if if someone heals
Without healing in the name of Jesus now I am we're going to talk about this because I know what I'm looking for
Someone heals without healing in the name of Jesus. Is that person healed?
This is what I can say
Contribution, you know
Jesus said you shall lay hands
and they seek and they shall come in
My name he adds that yeah, very powerful. Why does he take?
The audacity to add that it should be in my name you understand
because this issue now
It's about attributes like, you know a spiritual attributes spiritual attributes you understand. So
if you heal someone this is what I think and
They get healed they can really get you
But without the the name of Jesus Christ it does not it is not attributed from good source like the perfect
So to me, I think they are really dead works
Because
Because it it does not bring glory to God and it is not eternal
You know the spirituality is the spirituality of God is eternal
It is okay. What I think we call everlasting, you know it
It must have the life of God in it. I don't know whether we are speaking hard things
Okay, they'll catch up. Okay, like to people who are listening to us. There is that good aspect in this issue
There is the Jesus aspect the glorification of Jesus
Understand Jesus the Christ of God
Okay, I think I think that that helps the answer the question in the sense that first of all
we need people to understand that
To heal you don't have to always say in the name of Jesus
Because he says in my name. Yes, I say when you say my name. Yes
Understand it. Oh when you say in my name
So in a person can for example be in a relationship of God with God. Yes and say get up and walk
Without saying in the name of Jesus
That is very possible and the person because he is coming in the name of understanding is
Representing the name of Jesus. That's what Jesus said. You will not be blessed until you say blessed
See who comes in he who comes in the name. He does not need to say I have come in the name
But what he carries
You see that I don't know whether you know when our numbers are that comes you see them you differentiate them by there
They are number plate. They are number plate differentiates them according to the country. Secondly, they
The flag you there's something I'm trying to bring they can be all driving
For example, black beans you understand, but you differentiate them because one has an American flag and never me and then flag understand
so they all come but
Yeah, they they they resemble
But you differentiate you differentiate them by what they carry
So when I'm carrying Christ, I'm coming in the name of Christ, and I don't need to first say in the name
Understand, okay. Yeah, if I can just add to that because that's a very profound question, you know, it's
It's something that needs good clarity and he has put another good foundation to it
It reminds me of the story of the guy who was blind in the Bible
Jesus healed and what did he tell him that the reason for your blindness was what?
To glorify God, you understand so then it begs the question of
if someone is healed
absent of
You know the power of God or
It being attributed to God. What's that end up as what's the higher purpose of that healing because then if there's no element of
God if it's not for the glorification of God then like he said it's fun
Someone else is being glorified understand exactly. So yes, you're going to get healed
But the higher purpose is not there
Understand the thing is at the end of the day when you're healed it should because I don't think that when you're healed and the name of Jesus
Okay, that it's just going to leave you just like that. Okay, so you just got healed and that's it
I want to I want to believe that at some point. There's a deposit inside you
There's a burning, you know seed that's dropped in there that at some point
It's going to desire for a connection with this
Source of your healing and I think that's the higher purpose of of of healing in the name of Jesus
Contrary to when someone can just get healed absent of of cracking and I know right by there's something that people should know
And I wanted to be
I want just to throw it here for purposes of knowledge
You see the things you are seeing in the world like for example, those things whereby someone comes and
Probably is neutral
He's not on the side of God and he's not on the side of the devil. Let me tell you. There is nothing like that
We are living in the days of deception
Understand that it may begin as if this guy is no
Actually, actually that is it and everything is known by its food. Yes. Yeah, but eventually
He's is calling people is beckoning them somewhere and
You remember, you know this the the transition where these guys like William Pike said
We are going to first introduce atheism
To take away people's attention from God
But we know that man was created to worship a higher being
So eventually we are going to introduce to them devil worshipping
After we have brainwashed out all goodness in them. You see that so atheism is a
Transition to devil
You see that yeah, so there is when it came it looks neutral. I don't worship God
I am not worshiping the devil don't believe there is any
No, I just believe in good. I just believe I just want to perform good something good
I guess I just want to okay
This is an interesting thing. Okay. I want to I want to I want to jump to something
That I think we're personal. How do we harness these gifts?
How do we because we know from a biblical perspective?
There are spiritual gifts there nine that are shown in scripture that the spirit of the Lord
The Bible says shows forth as he wills
There are those but the other gifts even in the Bible is gifts of dreaming and so on and so forth
But now I'm talking about not just those gifts. We're talking about I mean a Chinese man
just
lit
paper on fire
With his hands. Yes, and if he can do it a person who is in Christ should be able to do much more because Jesus said
Greater things shall you do? Yeah, then this so where is the beginning point of of of
Harnessing these abilities. Where do you start from?
No at the first, you know the first step for you to you know to begin harnessing these gifts
Actually, I'm going to pick it up. You know
Arrabbi when I'm when the Lord released the apostles to start and the Holy Ghost fell upon them
Are there is a moment when they needed to step into a higher dimension
That that was released
Actually, they assembled and they prayed and they said Lord
You know
It's somewhere in the book of acts
I think it's acts chapter 5 that you hear their threatenings and grant your servants boldness that actually
That that actually they will that we shall use the name of the Lord that people may be healed
Yes, from that time when they prayed that prayer
Actually the place where they were began to
Literally shake can imagine that and from that it was like an explosion
So for you to harness something you must actually recognize that it is in your it is in it is in it is in your area of
Reach
But God you know God has given this to you and he expects you to walk it goes back to awareness
Yeah, you must be aware of it. You must be aware of it. Yes. So, right, you know
The first foundation is the first foundation of it all of course you must be in Christ
Yes, that is it then the other one you must know the abilities that Christ has availed to you
The anointed and he's anointing nice. You see that so how did he do?
You know, how did he do it when actually he you know, he moved out the first time he stepped out guys needed wine on
The wedding on the wedding and
Actually told his mother you this is not my time to do this thing
He said for us we don't know but as long as for us we want wine we are going to get the wine
So he tells the people whatever he tells you to do it
So the other thing is also like find out somewhere in the Bible where it has been written and
Whatever that man practiced begin to do the same thing
Then you know the next thing I think he tells them feel them up and what and then they have the wine
But the water that even he used
It was not actually a soda or something you can imagine that water
You know Muslims understand the water more
I've also how does someone harness because he's told us awareness
Um, um, where do you start from? I mean because we're talking about supernatural abilities
Late I'm going to ask what supernatural abilities you guys have
Now, um, one of the things I've seen is fellowship
I'm going to
there is power in fellowship by the way and
Fellows the kind of fellowship
I mean the kind of people
Come across association. Yes association. Um, because it it can all start from there
There are things I can pick from there are a lot of things. For example, I've picked from you, right
Because I have a closer
Even if sometimes we take long to meet physical
But you remember you know very well that we have a very close. You understand
association like
There are things I pick from you by
Believing in you. You understand. So there's impartation by association. Yes. Then then I start to
Do certain things because of the revelations of God through you, right? That is called fellow shipping now the day I cut it
Hey, those things may stop or
If I never had it, they may not have come. You understand? Yeah, if I never had it, they may not have come
For example, I never used to prophesy
Like the prophetic things nowadays your bad news
The more I I fellowship with the prophetic grace. Yeah, that's it. You understand it the more it comes upon me
Strongly and so on and by like it affects you so much to a level that
Even go into those other deeper things, which you never really expected now. That is one way of
You know bringing out these gifts in you because it is a Biblical
template
These guys were like fish are main what what what then they come together with Jesus
They are walking they're walking with him for three and a half years
now
They never learnt the the Jewish law then they were not
You know teachers of the word, you know from the Jewish Bible schools and everything
But they picked that thing from just walking Jesus Christ. You understand it and then he left it upon them
He said now you wait
I I'm going even to impart upon you the Holy Spirit and and even the Bible says this and say they looked at this man and they were like
Okay, they had been with Jesus these men were just land. They were on land according to their law
Ignorant, but now they are speaking things showing that they were with Jesus
They're demonstrating power showing that they were Jesus they picked these things from being with Jesus
He imparted them
Upon it now you can receive it first of all by impartation, but there's also one thing I want to say right by which is very very crucial
there are people who are born
Okay, there are people who are these things when you are connected to Christ
They become it's like live wire. You understand it
You're like when you plunge in it and you switch you understand
Now this is the issue
You have to learn
to practice
You understand to to practice these things
And by the way, they begin from a point whereby they are frail
Hey, for example the day I prophesied first
The things I was prophesying were not very clear. You understand
But then when you fear to prophesy again, for example, I can call someone and tell them something and it is not
Like maybe truly say, ah, it's not now the moment you fear
Because now the ability in you is beckoning on you to start it. That's it. That's it
That is the issue that Peter did when Jesus says step in the water
He started you understand
So you have not to fear to step in the waters because this is called the unknown
To the physics and I realized something if you don't
Believe a thing. Yes, you can never function in it. True. Ah, add to that. Yeah, so
He's talked about acknowledging that you have these gifts. Then he's talking about the power of association and then practice
Yes
We also need to understand that sometimes in some of these things you might be the pioneer
In them so in such a case what happens you don't have a reference to fall back on
But you know, you're picking this thing from the spirit. Yes. Now. That's where I'd also adjust to dare
dare
Dive in like true. True. You believe this is the thing you can do it and whatsoever
Don't always first look for who has done it before maybe I go a bore leaf
You could just be the one that others are waiting on. Okay to guide us in this direction. So
Yours could be apostolic like dive into it. You're the one who is going to break that ground. So let's learn to dare
To do certain things because I I don't know how many people we know in our circles
In the churches that we've been to I don't know how many people we know who have ever demonstrated
That one of fire. This is what I'm saying
You know, so at the end of the day does that mean we can't do it?
Yes, we can but if no one is going to be willing to dare
Then chances are we will not have someone would ask. There is something I want to add before you ask
Please quickly
You see, uh, there's a a prophet I know
Europe right now
The issue of miracle money
The first I was listening to his testimony, you know, he gets he's broke
So he gets his card. He knows there is nothing on the bank
Like and and he goes and he
He puts this thing in the atm and he starts to command it to bring money now
Where has he had he ever seen it before you understand it?
So he did it the first time now people are lining up. They are waiting. They are waiting. They are starting to quarrel with him
But he persisted now as people were getting nagged
He says you must even hit the what the atm
Now the machine brought money
And now the guys say
I have you now like
Now he opens from the from the point of having mastered
Now this is something he picked in the spirit and you cannot take it away from him
Okay, but I want I want to ask now. Yeah, apostle
Someone there will be saying what is the relevance of fire turning something into fire
For the kingdom what is the relevance of calling cash out
For the sake of the kingdom because there are people like that
Yeah, who will say what is how is this relevant if I can walk in the air? How is it relevant?
Um, you know, you may you know, you may debate actually people may debate all they want
But deep inside them
There is always a beckoning to something that is supernatural. That is supernatural
Now all these things are supposed to awaken us to to the power. Okay, good
They're supposed to awaken us that actually, you know what?
There is something beyond the five senses. There is something beyond the empirical. There is something beyond
Education. There is something there is something big
and actually, um now the importance of uh, you know of
Of let's say a prophet saying that there's going to be
these Oscars and names
Nominations and everything is actually to show us
That those people don't have the power. It is actually the child of God that has the power
Okay, you see that now for example, if let's say if let's say like um
I am sick, of course, I'm I'm not going to be sick
And then I come to you rabbi say rabbi, you know, I have a tumor in my brain, but I'm here
I you know just minister to me when you minister to me and I receive my healing. You know what that thing is going to glorify God
So all these supernatural
feats and uh, you know and things they are they are actually glorifying a certain altar
whether the altar of god
Or the altar of the enemy. So all these things actually, you know, magnifying, you know, the same thing actually the Lord actually told Moses to do
You know, he you know, he tells him now
Um, turn your you know, you stick into a snake. It swallows all you see that
When that happened, you know, the magician had not actually believed it
He said, um, I think that one is I think he must have pulled a higher tree, but let's try again
Then he tries with the he turns
um
dust into lies
Actually, I believe if you ever want to learn spiritual crafting Moses is a guy to watch out for
scriptures
You see what happens now all those things they actually until those guys recognize that a man
This god of moses
is bad news
You see so all these supernatural things are supposed actually to awaken us
To a being that is beckoning us to walk into
Um, as we as we go we're still going on
You know the bible talks about the powers of the age to come
And I think this is where because when we talk about supernatural abilities
That scripture is at the heart of supernatural abilities for christians true true
And it it it talks about the powers of the age to come that the implication of that scripture
Is not that we should wait for those powers
Someday yes in the future in the future
It is possible for someone to operate in the powers of the age to come
Now and that's why we're emphasizing this spiritual crafting thing
Can we get some examples of things that each of you have seen apart from the videos I've shown you
But from a from a personal experience you've you've seen something work
And realize that there is a supernatural
ability that people have
Beyond what the mind can conceive
Whoever wants to go first?
Okay, I've had these experiences, you know
Not hard not hard h e a had h a d like experienced h a d
Okay, all right experiences. All right. I've a lot of experiences
But of course not all of them i'm going to explain how and um
One of the things i've seen rabbi is you have seen something which is very important
The power of the age is to come now
We are tending towards those ages
like
Real time
The ages to come that poll was speaking about whereby men are living as real space
Those ages are here now. They are very close to us. That's what they call the end time now
In the millennial rule, yes, we shall we shall just live like that
All the things we are talking about we shall not need the planes. We shall just teleport
We shall just do we shall practice
Like typical telepathic, you know, you don't need to talk
These things which they are trying to lie to us that they are scientific
You know those things are spiritual and you know technology is tending more to spirituality
And it is intentional by the way because uh those guys also know how to
Uh to twist the knowledge of god
But okay, this is one thing for example, let me tell you i've seen these things work
There is a time i was stranded
And i'm in ministry i'm from ministry i'm i'm driving
And um
My car has run out of fuel
Like i know it can't take me the next
One kilometer or and i know it it has even started
Not this carried warning but warning whereby the engine stops
And then you know i'm i'm going for it and you're in the middle of somewhere very far
Not even petrol station is near
Then this thing comes to me and i remember how jesus turned
Water into wine and then i remembered also how he
He fed the five thousand and i it just
Packed off and i started to meditate and i'm like okay if jesus fed the five thousand
Jesus can put okay i can put fuel in the sky is nothing that is possible
So i started to meditate
Now suddenly i hear a voice within me and it told me drive and stop looking on the fuel gauge
So i put my eyes off the fuel gauge and i started to drive
I was around 54 kilometers away from the next town where we could get fuel
And even i don't have money to like buy
Actually we were beyond that we were like
78 something kilometers to add
Now
I switched off my eyes from the fuel gauge as the voice told me just to prove because that's the only option i had
To follow that
Now i'm carrying a lot of people in the car
We are very early in the morning. They are even sleeping
You know when you wake up and start traveling and sleep takes you and only the driver is awake
So i'm driving i switched off like
From looking at the gauge and i started to drive
Only to realize it i had reached ginger town
And when we parked like this
And and my spiritual son said you know what man of god
I told them what had happened and they said no it's a lie then i told one of them
Okay, you ignite the can you know just to put in the creak the car was not
To show you that it was super much like i drove i'll never forget that experience
So like there was no fuel so during this period of fuel prices you're the person to go to
And macklin do you have one an experience that's not one i have i have a number of them. Yeah, let's choose one
I have a number of them
But again, even as he's saying that you realize that there's one
faculty that
Determines how far someone can go in spiritual crafting
And that's the faculty of your mind
Which for me i find very fascinating now the thing is not your mind the thing is how your mind can either limit
Or help you to tap into the full potential of what you can get from the spiritual
Because if your mind has mental walls, then it's going to be hard for you to believe anything
Beyond that but once you learn to understand that look
My mind is my mind i am my spirit is much more powerful than that
Then you can learn to open your mind one of the things i love to do the most is i love money
Okay, i love money and for me
The thing that i would say okay god
Yeah, this one we have done is the time when i'll get to the point where i can call money and it shows up physically
Now i have done this
On a number of occasions most of the things in my life have come through the art of meditation
Wow
Now one evident i think this is the one which would be more interesting is there was a time at work
I needed money and i didn't have enough of it
I remember i had just gotten money from office and it was one million i put it in my right pocket
I still remember that
But all this time in my mind i'm thinking i have abcd to sort out and i need
money
And robber knows this my consciousness towards
My ability to call money or as load over and over money is very high. So this is how i was operating
I kid you guys not
I reach home i pull out the money it was one million
I pull it out and for some reason i get the urge to count the money
I start to count it and it's 1.7
million
Wow, i couldn't believe it. I first put it together. I said no, maybe i made a mistake
I counted it again 1.7. I said, okay, maybe i made a mistake
Maybe i got extra money from work. I don't know true story. I went back to work
I checked with the accountant. I asked that did you buy any chance give me any money which
You were not supposed to and she said no, I checked my own records because i managed projects
So i checked my own records. Maybe did i leave some money in my pocket?
Zero and i remember the thing that the spirit of god told me in 2015 when i had my first
Uh interaction with the spirit in relation to money and he said you reminded me he said i told you
Do not put me in a box stop limiting me to a box and what that means is
And this is a problem many of us makers children of god
We have built mental worlds to the limitations of how far god can do things
Or through ways it weighs through which he can bless us
And for me he said that because every time buying then before 2015 every time i'd pray for a financial breakthrough
I was always thinking of now who is coming maybe this uncle maybe that auntie maybe this and that and this time
All he was telling me was stop doing that
It can come from wherever and you know the interesting thing is that people don't realize that the bible says
Money answers all things
And money is actually the fact that it says it answers all things. That means something is calling it
You can't answer unless you've been cold
Yeah
So the thing is that um the word i've i've taught this in my ministry before that the word currency
Means doesn't just mean it it comes from the word current energy. Yes. Yes
So it's if it's energy
It's there's a frequency to which you can call certain amounts
of money
Okay, and so I've taught this over and over that if you learn how to raise your frequency
You can attract certain things. They're not attracted to you. They're attracted to what is in you. Yeah, wow
Okay, and this is very very important. Like so for example, how do you raise your frequency?
There is i've given example before music
Different music has different frequencies because it has different sources
There's music that comes from the enemy
There's music that comes from god and even music that comes from god is music that came straight from the throne room
Then there's music that some some christian decided through talent. Yeah, it's still god works
Now when you get
A song that has come straight from the throne room. It raises you to the frequency
Of that
Yes, you understand. Yes, when you call
At that frequency
The things you attract are different from the things that a person would attract at a lower frequency
That is very true. You know exactly the same thing that actually
You know the prophet elisha told these guys, you know, he was now hungry with this
You know president and what he didn't want to look at him. Then he told him anyway
Uh, you know, just bring me the what?
the you know the heaven
The heaven the guys
Worship guys when they you know when they played the you know the the song
Now he could now he went there. He started seeing that is very powerful
And so I'm going to give my experience. Then you come up with yours and I have many but there's one
Um that I think will bless a lot of people. There's a day
Just see a logo
I had uh had driven I was I was coming for fellowship because it was a tuesday and it was getting dark
Okay, so I remember that I'd forgotten something at home
And there was a lot of traffic so I couldn't
Get into the car and go back home and I needed to go and come back quick
So I jump on a border border
A bike go
And on my way back
I the border border drops me at logo and I forget my phone on the seat
Of the border border and it drives off
So as I'm heading to a car, I realize
I've forgotten
My phone
And I stood there for about it must have been seven eight maybe ten minutes
And I said, oh my god, I've forgotten my phone. I have to buy a new one. Then a voice told me
As a child of god, you lose nothing. Yes. Never accept to lose something. Yes. So I got an inspiration in me
I went to the side of the road up to now. I don't know what took over me
And I stood there borders were passing and I began to pray in tongues as I closed my eyes
Then I said
Stop I shouted stop and a border stopped and it was the same border
The phone was still
On the on the seat the border guy turned and said I don't know what god you serve
Give me the phone. I said what now imagine he would have gone
And what are the chances that the phone didn't fall that didn't fall even that's why he said, you know
By the way, it's not even straight life
Amazing
Very very amazing
I know right
Now one of the most profound, uh, you know, uh, you know, one of the most profound things that happened to me back then
Is that um, I'd really try to convince my father to give his life to the lord and he wasn't
So, you know, uh, you know some miracles had happened and uh, you know, still he remained skeptical about this
You know these things of god and what so one time um now this time I've joined university
and
I'm supposed to pay one point
You know 1.7 million
As tuition with you know with functional fees and everything and that semester my father managed to only give me
300,000. Yeah
so
I you know, I remember every day of that semester. I was preparing I prepared my you know
My fellow friends my roommates and what so the time now we're supposed to go for an examination
my
Real biological father comes and tells me I'm my son. I'm sorry
But you know, then he begins recalling to me guys that need to do exams and then you understand
Anyway, so I listen to him
I don't know but something in me answered him and said Jesus does not say that I'm not going to do the exams
So anyway, we go to
to the examination room
to make matters worse, I think they had put like
A security personnel putting on the uniform of our police forces
And then, you know, they were asking for certain documentations that you that you must present like I think a permit or something
Then I remember
You know, I saw people enter enter enter then I uh, I went in the washroom
And I remember I said lord, I set my eyes upon
these walls in this toilet
But I know my help comes from you
Then I went back there
When I went back there, I presented the bank slip because if you paid 300,000
There is really literally no way you can you can even enter you have the
You've not even registered for those examinations
Because even you've not paid even
Yes, not even starting payment, but 300k is literally
Doesn't equal up to I think our functional fees at that time was 500 and 70 something
Our fees was one point, uh, you know 1.05 something
You know, so for me I'd paid 300k
So anyway, I reached the exam uh the on the door
And I said I blind this guy
The guy looked at my paper
Nice he looked at me
For some reason he let me in yeah
So when he let me in now my ink talic now set it he said now here
You better do this examination in 30 minutes before they come for you before they because after you've sat in mackerel
They have to come and and and verify whether
Uh, uh rabbi
You know is
Is he the student that is supposed to do this examination?
How are they going to tell that you're the one so they look at your examination permit?
It has your picture the courses you're doing and things even your money me. I had a bank slip
I remember rabbi for the load to demonstrate that thing. There was a gentleman seated in front of me the guy was kicked out
I think there was another guy that was also kicked out. There's another guy that somehow he didn't you know, he bypassed
When I did the first examination paper
I did all the seven
Then when I went and told my father like that thing, he just gave his life to christ
Wow
These are powerful things
We could go on with that
That's a powerful story that to show you that that that for the person who's listening that the supernatural
Is is part of us even when you're at a very low level and you you you don't know how these things work
God if your heart is willing is willing to show you that indeed is god. I want us to
To touch a few a few more things because we still have a little more time
um
Is there a difference because this is interesting because
When whenever dealing we're dealing with supernatural abilities. We're dealing mainly with
prophetic atmospheres
Please I did not say prophecy
Prophets I said prophetic which all three are different
um
For something supernatural to happen something prophetic is happening
Is there a difference between
A psychic
And a prophet and if so, what is the difference?
I
Ask me because you see
Because this is bring it up because there are a lot of people out there the bible even has a psychic what um
Has some examples of people who could see in two people's lives, but they were not of god. Yeah. Yes, okay
um, one of them is uh is uh
This guy in the book of
Simon the sorcerer
The girl that had the spirit of divination
The witch of ando. She could even tell that uh, aposah brahame is a man of god and he has come to proclaim to us the way of the lord
So she's called the witch of ando. Now
We have examples of that. So I think we should um
tell the difference between
foretelling which is actually being a psychic and uh
Professor. Yeah, professor. Now. Let me tell you this
foretelling
Let me just say this I always tell people
That prophecy
Is good revealing to you is perfect path for you
And it is up to you to walk that path. No one will change it
understand
uh
That path may not necessarily be the path that you desire for sure to say for example
If god told you certain things you go through as uh, you know, uh, you will say
Lorde first leave me and I do my things
But of course he tells you certain things that are profound
So that even when you go through these trying moments, you have a sure word from the lorde
that you remember when
The angel came and in the book of acts and uh when poll and these friends were going through the
the sitamoyle
at the ocean
And he tells him that you will stand
in
Rome you will stand in Rome and testify before the
Rome and that was jesus's intention so that the gospel will go to Rome
But now look here. Do you know that all the things which took place?
I was reading recently and the the the historians say that poll
Spent two years at that island
Now if what could sustain poor the prophetic word
Yeah that you will stand in Rome
That is the only thing that's told him so the different for telling is uh, mainly
Someone coming and tell you you shall
It is mainly like a soothing thing
I'm just trying to use the language that I understand
It's it's there to tell you
Is a perception that people have
And it's not a right perception. There's a perception that people have
That somehow the devil does another future
But biblically
It says he knows his time is short. That means he knows the events. Yes, you know some of them is some ability
Though it's limited that the some ability the devil has and because he has been is an ancient being
And the bible says things repeat themselves. Yes through repetition
Yes, he can be able to predict the things that are going to take place, but also they're what we call familiar spirits. Yes
Yeah, whereas spirit is attached to a person
so
So what will happen is that and and it's interesting. I tell people this that
Just like god attaches an angel that they will attach
Actually, that is it
You know now actually when you're talking about, uh, you know the ability between a psychic and a prophet
Is now it's actually that spirit
Definition
Actually, I think if we had time would have gone to you know to acts chapter 16 and we look at that that thing
The spirit that actually was upon that girl
Was actually the spirit that actually the psychic's use. Yeah, and
There is actually a thin line between it because actually that spirit comes to hijack prophetic death
You see
Because now you imagine that thing just keeps on just confirming that this guy is a man of god
But some people are not
The owners of that girl are not are not actually trusting the god that this spirit is apparently pointing them
In the men that are here. Yeah, you understand that so now that is it so
And someone could you know could be giving you right thing. Actually, I have a boy at fellowship
You know, his mother, you know practices certain things in western Uganda. She's a crafter
Yes, and even you know
So he comes and tells me that my mother told me that she has seen a chikanga boy
A bad thing happened a scaring thing which is a scaring thing that is supposed to happen. I told him, okay
Even if she has seen anything that is going to happen, even if it happens
Nothing will happen to you. Yeah
So anyway, you know, I think you know, I think I think that guy did not like contact me like for the next three weeks
The next thing he told me he told me that he was driving and is around the UN base. Yeah
He's tired of you off
His car like overturns like three times
He goes and runs into this, you know, this, you know, this wall of the UN and what
And when he came out
He was so surprised that he came out without a single scratch
Oh
Okay, so so he had received the word from something else someone else, but it was overturned
And this is why I want to highlight something before I go to Maki
Um, what is extremely important that one of the key differences between psychics and the prophetic or a prophet
In this case
A psychic can see something in your future, but they can't change it
True
A prophet can see it
And overturn and that's a very and it's about the fact of authority. Yep
Is it Maki?
It's it's that's that's what I was about to say. It's the influence
That whoever is giving this word has over the event that they
Are speaking about
Because for the psychics all like he's saying all they can do is just tell you abcd is going to happen
But they have no power to influence it otherwise. So if that's the case, it's really not that valuable to you
You understand because if it's something that needs to be overturned then what?
Yeah, you understand. So okay, so you're telling me there's going to be an accident
Then that's it. I'm just going to you understand. So at the end of the day, this is where
The prophet who is a man of God comes in in a higher office
You know in a higher dimension
And that is why for us we move with the prophets and not with the psychic
Because at the end of the day, all of this is just going to be vanity. You'll just get excited like you were saying
They'll tell you abcd, but at the end of the day, you really don't have
Control and anything without control or without power is literally vanity
And you know people can't seem to
They don't seem to
I'll say this. I always like to differentiate. We like to
We like to group up
The dark world's power and we don't understand that it operates in a very strange for example witchcraft
Because it's crafting. Yeah, is the power element of the enemy
Okay, yeah
Divination is the wisdom element. So when someone is a diviner
They they give you instruction about something you should do. Yeah, it's different from witchcraft
Yeah, that's that
So now, how do you differentiate sorcery and what other thing I think I want to do
Because sorcery now has is is that is the knowledge
Anxion of it
If you want to know something
I want to know is my wife cheating on me. Is that what that is so sorry
Witchcraft is the power element. I want to send sickness to someone. I want to
The manipulation kind of thing about it
And divination is um, you go to a diviner and the person says, um, so, um
I'm going to America. How do I get a job? It tells you when you go
Go do this. Go do this. Go do this. It's a wisdom
Function it's almost like a word of wisdom
So they're not they're not the same thing. So when someone is a sorcerer he focuses in in that area someone is a diviner
And someone which doctor
Yeah, they're all different aspects and so even even in the kingdom of god
um
See I was telling someone we're going to do a podcast on dreams. Yes, I was telling someone
that uh
It it is possible for someone to interpret your dream
But without good
Hmm
You know, you
You can perfect the art of interpreting dreams
Absent of god of the spirit of god on the spirit of god
But there
It has a limit. That's why there are people out there in the world
I would say to people that you can go to when the guy tells you your dream and interprets it
But he's not of god
He's not of god. Yeah
That kind of interpretation is different from the prophetic. Yes
When a prophet
Is interpreting something the element of the prophetic is to reveal hidden things. Yes. It's not just
To interpret. Yes
Because interpretation is just all your dream means this this this
But you get the hidden
And some interpretation is actually very elementary
I know that for a fact so elementary that
They can tell you why when you dream this then you're going to get man over what and stuff like that
But now the do you know that someone can come to you right by and they tell you dream
Which is confusing that even when you use the abilities to interpret
That dream is still confusing
Then when when you're dream when you're interpreting from the spirit point of view
Like as a prophet it's plain speech. Like you can just go and interpret it. I don't know how to put it
Like you can just find that thing
The spirit or not just drops that main agenda of the lord
For example, recently a lady came to me and her dream was very confusing
Even when I tried to tap into the knowledges I have of interpreting and say
Then I just tapped into the spit and the whole spit just told me the intention of god
Then I just told her the lord intends to do this and this in that dream
And you know a few days she calls me and said exactly as you said but even me when I was interpreting I was like
I didn't pick this from the knowledges the elementary knowledge
We're we are tapping into a podcast before it's time. I actually think it's very true
But um
We're running up. There's so much to talk about because I want to have you guys heard of what they call indigo children
Indigo children are a children who are born in this world
With unusual abilities
And I'm sometimes a prophetic you go online. You you just type in indigo children
their children who
when
While the rest of us hear music
they
Every note for them has a color
Okay, the children who can who can taste smells
Well, you're smelling it. They can they can taste they can taste numbers a child will tell you every number has a different taste
You understand they're called indigo children and most of them usually have autism
And you know what they call autistic children? They say they think they have a disease. Most autistic children usually
Have an unusual
Kani ability. Yes
Within them some of them are quite prophetic and they usually loners
And they can pick up negative energy
I remember one time years ago. I listened to a session opera had with an indigo child
And the child said there are people she can just walk by and feel the negative
Yeah
energy and I believe
Those choose when children is not they're not necessarily
Special I believe all of us are born that way
But some people are born with a grace that is more potent
Than others. It's just like how someone can be born with prophecy in the prophetic gift
We are taught to now those
Yes
We're taught and so because we're taught a lot a lot about our lives
Especially when we get born again is to try to get those senses to come back
And learn what we want and it's it's it's I think many people and in that state
People who believe that salvation is just about
Give your life to Christ. Yes sing kumbaya die and live and go to heaven
When there are things like haunted houses
Think there are spirits
I told someone one time and the Lord actually had to teach me this
If a demon or a spirit
That is invisible can move something in the physical. Yeah
Then you who is physical can move something in the spirit. That is so true. True. That is so true
I actually know what um arabia. I remember there's uh, there's this girl
You know that I made
And somehow there's something we had about this girl
And how did I know that
When I came closer to her she smelled like a rotten egg
But yet physically speaking she's putting on like a a bodice plush
You see that thing
Now those indigo children actually are abilities that actually you have
Haven't you haven't you like ever walked around someone and then
You just think that there's something that is not right about someone
Everything's normal. You know, like you can pick something with someone but yet they don't have it
For example, one day I was we were preaching the gospel is not door to door somewhere
So we meet some guys and these guys we are trying to act wise on us. They're like, yeah, you know
We're born again pastor. What what what?
Then as the guy speaking you know, like they're just there
I had a very strong smell
Um, two smell
I first heard Maria Joanna smell
But these guys were not anywhere smoking like very smart guys like even corporate guys
I think they were working somewhere in the streets there. So then I had like very strong alcoholic whatever
But these guys are smart, you know, like not even appearing anywhere then
um
I just
Suddenly said the word to them
No, you did not come to them
at 9 p.m
We are still winding up and you were at the back. You guys said, oh my god, you know, like I just said it from nowhere
And the guy was shocked. He was shocked that at nine
You know that thing bought the two guys to receive jesus christ
Because they knew we were at the crusade. How did I know?
But I just sensed and you know the senses can also tell you
They can tell you specifics. Okay, that's them. Okay, like specifics
You can have a sense but the sense is also talking to you that maybe at this time
I want us to to wind up. I want to throw a question
um
In the next five minutes or so is we're winding up
Um
Maki, what is the difference? How can someone tell the difference between trickery
And actual spirituality because you know, you know, there's some magicians out there
They do something
And you're like, man, is this witchcraft?
But it's actually just trickery
You understand and many of these guys it's trickery, but then there's actual spirituality
How can someone be able to tell the difference in?
I think there you need to use the
The discerning of spirits, huh?
You need to find you need to grow your spirit to a level where like like we're saying you're able to read energies and you're able to read frequencies
You're able to
perceive okay
Whether something is of god or it's not of god and that kind of thing and you can easily do that because people usually say
I had a feeling that
There's just something that just felt off about
This whole thing it just didn't add up it just didn't add up and what they don't know is they're actually picking from the spirit
But because they're not that conscious they're not paying attention to it. They ignore it and then
Bam, okay. So discerning. So I think yeah discerning
Anyone else with a different answer from that?
You can tell the difference between trickery and and I think discerning of spirits and I was telling
many members of my fellowship the other day
that
People confuse wisdom using wisdom from discerning
When you use wisdom, for example, someone can come
They're dressed a particular way
And the way they're talking
You say this guy is a player
And you think you're discerning. That's not discerning
Actually, it's a suspicion
The spirit of suspicion
Skepticeous
Not even Skepticeous. It's a suspicion. I am suspicious that
That color pink t-shirt and what?
So so there's that there's that level gift of suspicion suspicion, but if you are right
If you're right, it's not even suspicion. You've used an element of wisdom in other words through experience. Yeah
You've been you've you've learned how to identify something. Yes
Descending is when irrespective of what is before you
You pick the spirit of the thing. Yeah, so someone can be dressed
Well, but you sense that there
This is very true about like
That is why the bible talks about it to discern spirits
Like the only thing you can use
Especially in this era of deception. I tell people
You have to use discernment. Now we have gone in an era. I mean e r a
Whereby people have mistaken the sandwich
Suspicion that's it. I tell people that you know, you can look at for example three prophets
And probably all of them are trying to do the same thing in the rightful way
And you can fail
Until
You activate
The sandwich from the spirit
You understand because that's the only supernatural ability and like you have said it picks the spirit behind
How did paul know that this girl
Was saying was professing from that
Divination is divination and yet she had done it for many days because she kept on doing it the same thing now
If you are you will say, yeah, this is a good spirit
It's even helping you to God. It's even telling you these are men of the most high God, but let me tell you
No one told him that this lady's
Diviner what but
he designed that
Spirit I think we need to stress
We're winding up. We need to stress
It doesn't say the gift of discernment. Yes the gift of designing of spirit. Yep. Ah
qualifier being spirit
Yeah, spirits because you have to design spirits
Because you see in the world people have discernment. Yes
It's different from having designing of spirits the spirit
Because spirits are different you can come when you're carrying a different spirit
And uh, that's what the spirit is what I connect to you have never been there and someone brings you something like a daily
Like for example in business
And the guys you're presenting
But then you're like
Like something is not really coming down to your spirit
About this guy the guy smart his presentations are really like
Feeding you really the guys done it he has
Then he's like, yeah, I think muck is about to release something but then you're like
I discernment you discern the spirit
Behind this man and you just say you know what the things are good, but I'm not interested
lastly
In two minutes. I want us
I think it's impossible because I want us to give
um
To highlight on a major area that can help in crafting
Visualization
Huh highlight it. I didn't want us to end without it because um
Many people we talk about visualization or
Visioning and uh people don't know what exactly
Actually, most people ask me so much about what is envisioning. I think the best way I can explain vision is to create
motion pictures
About the things that you want when they are not there
What I mean is that you have to enter that realm whereby you create a film
Which is not physical, but it is within you and and it is moving
And uh, you are seeing it there because until you reach there
Hey until you do that you have not yet totally envisioned. How do how do you differentiate it from imagination?
um
I'm going to tell you how I am how I did actually actually yesterday
I went to some hotel
That I used to went and I took my wife. I told her now
These things you're seeing here. We are producing them in our house
Now that was like um around three four years ago
Then yesterday it dawned on me that
The things that were in that hotel that we saw are the very things that we now have in the house
In the house. So um, you asked a question. How do you differentiate between imagination and visualization now?
Imagination and visualization
Are there is actually a very thin line because these two are all interconnected
You cannot visualize when you don't have an image
But now these are images that I'm going to call like mental images
So you you create
You can go in a state where
Okay, it might it might start now when you have something that is physical like for example right now
We have we have these beautiful cups with rdm podcasts
Now I want to replicate
Something like this in let's say, you know, I will start with something that is physical
But then it will translate
Where now I can literally feel that thing
That actually it's not the cup that is here
The cup now is
inside me
I can feel it
I can
You know, I can I can feel it. I can feel its energies now. I own it
Now when I reach that level now when I I know beyond a matter of fact that it is done
I own it then when I go back home
I'm going to literally have sets of cups that look like this
Okay, uh quick. Uh, thank you so much
McLean add to that and and we come to a close. Yeah, so that and it's interesting because what he spoke just laid the foundation for
Which he built on and I'm just going to add on to what he said. So
imagination and visualization imagination is
It's a vague I say and you can distance yourself from it. You you're not the actor in the movie
With visualization like he's saying at the end of the day
The potential of it and the weight the magnitude with which you can actually
Manifest okay things is the amount of energy like you're saying that you're touched to it
How much you connect to it? But even when you visualize
It has to be definite
It's not just a random thing
And then when you visualize you're not seeing it as a third party
You're in that thing. So when you say I visualize myself driving a car you don't
Stand on the side and you're seeing a car driving and you're inside it
You're inside that car and you can imagine yourself holding the steering wheel and you're driving now that is visualization
And the amount of energy that you are touched to that
Imagination while you're visualizing is what will help with
Shortening the time in in terms of the manifestation and the physical
Okay, um, lastly, I'll say I'll agree with all of you
In my mind imagination is primarily
involuntary
You imagine a lot during the day
Envisioning is intentional
Yes
So you're creating intentionally and the bible says it says as a man thinker
Yeah, so in his heart
So is he and there's there's that power that thinking has
In creating your world and it happens a lot of stuff created in our world is because of involuntary thinking
You're just you are just thinking it's created
But you can change something through
and
Visioning true
Okay, it's the power that god gave us so man can create with his mind
He can create with his mouth. He can create with his hands
And we're asking you
To be able to tap into these things the supernatural crafting
To be able to tap into the powers of the age to come don't sleep
Learn to meditate learn to meditate upon the word of the lord
Learn to go deeper search out these things and as many of us we've talked
Learn the power of association
Learn to be conscious to create awareness
We don't have time to do to go into that
Learn to meditate like I've said and you will find that your spiritual senses will begin to open up
My name is Robert Daniel Malinga. I'm going to say thank you so much to my guests
Apostle Enok, we hope to have you again sometime. Thank you very much. Apostle Abram Mirembe. Thank you so much for coming
It's always a pleasure
And afimani mclean. Thank you so much. You're welcome. See you next time. God bless you
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