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to secrets and deeper realms. And now, here is your host, Rabbi Daniel Malinga.
Hello everybody, we're back again and to the fourth episode of the second season of the rdm
podcast, I'm yours truly Rabbi Daniel Malinga. I'm excited for what we have to discuss today,
I'm not alone in the studio, we got the guys with me guys say hi.
Hey guys, Mark Lane here, super excited for today.
Hi everyone and about your manual here, excited. Eric, deeply honoured.
All right, the guys are in the house, you're listening in and
the only thing left is let's see how deep we can go. Let's get it on.
All right, a bit of a recap. The last episode, we went deep, we were talking about the custodians
of secrets and we looked once more through the book of Job, went through chapter one again,
and we didn't even go past chapter one. We highlighted on some of the other verses and
chapters and well, who knows when the Lord will allow me to be able to go through all 42 chapters.
But today, I want us to highlight a bit if we can on spiritual espionage.
Spiritual espionage, now there are many directions I could go with this because I have a lot in my
mind. We could go espionage strictly spirit from the spirit realm, we could go espionage spirit
in hand with the natural realm. We could go espionage natural, but it's implication in the realm of
the spirit. But I want you to understand that there's a lot going on in the world. The last
podcast we did talk about, we said that information is very vital both in the spiritual and the
natural realm. Remember that? And I did say that ignorance is the biggest weakness, demons don't
want to be ignorant, the devil does not want to be ignorant, God does not want to be ignorant.
Well, God can't be ignorant anyway, but God does not want you to be ignorant. He says your days
of ignorance, I have winked at or I have overlooked, now I command all men to repent. That's what he
says in scripture. And he says more than anything, I want my people to know me, more than banned
offerings, I want my people to know me. That's what the Bible says. So knowledge is extremely
important, especially the knowledge of God. Now, because God keeps things secret,
because the demonic world keeps its things secret, there is a constant desire for God to reveal
to his people what the devil is up to. And those who are awake, and I'm talking about what is
up to in their lives, first of all, what is up to in their nation and what is up to globally.
People think that just by reading the Bible, you can know what the devil is up to.
He is not a fool. The Bible gives a lot of highlights, the Bible is generally in nature.
For example, the Bible can tell you what kind of person you can marry, but it can't tell you who
to marry. Because it's not specific, and people want specificity. The Bible can tell you what
kind of character a person, the kind of person you should hire for your job, but it can't tell you
who. All right? So because the Bible is general, there's a lot of specificity needed, especially
in the operations of the devil in this time and age. And this is why the prophetic is important,
and prophecy is important. And this is why the gift of discerning of spirits is one of the most
important gifts on the face of this earth currently. If you don't have it pray as much as you can,
or you can tap on him and ask for an invitation from someone who you know has it.
I want to show you Ezekiel chapter 11 quickly to show you my point or what the Lord usually
wants to do. Ezekiel chapter 11. Ezekiel 11, 1 to 2. Moreover, the Spirit lifted me up and
brought me into the east gate of the Lord's house, which looks eastward. And behold, at the door of
the gate, five and twenty men, among whom I saw Jezaniah, the son of Azul, and Pilatea, the son of
Benayah, princes of the people, then said he unto me, son of man, these are the men that devise
mischief and give wicked counsel in this city. Okay? So the Lord takes Ezekiel up in the Spirit
and shows him the people that were responsible for the things that were going on in the city.
And this happens even in this time and age, because believe me, and this is, remember in the
previous podcast I was talking about how there's the counsel of the wicked. And so these are human
beings that the devil is using to devise evil things against the city. And the Lord takes a
prophet, a man of God, into the Spirit and shows him who they are. God wants to do this, not just
for high ranking prophets. He wants to do it for you. He wants to show you the reason why you have
applied for a job constantly and you're not getting it. The reason why you've sold constantly and
you're not, and you're not going through their secrets. There are things that you're constantly
ignorant about because I've taught in the past that the devil will often oppress you in the area
that you are ignorant. So that means the desire for knowledge, especially the knowledge of the
operations of God and the ways of God is extremely important. Are you with me? Yes. Which brings me
now because we have to layer a foundation. I like to lay foundations. When we're going into
understanding spiritual espionage, we need to understand. Clearly, I want to understand in
your mind, what do you know about spying? What do you know about espionage?
Knowing secrets about you, about someone else. Without them knowing that you are actually
knowing these things or you're gathering this kind of information. Okay. You watch movies,
then spy movies that you watched? 007. Okay, 007. What would you learn from such movies?
How does a spy operate? Secrecy. Okay, secrecy. There is secrecy and
he needs to have strategy on how to get those secrets. Network. Network? Go on. Yes, you need to
have a network. Anyone else? Yeah. Okay, let's see. Because I'm asking. I'm asking. I just want
to get the idea. Go ahead. A spy from my experience watching so many movies and reading so many
novels about spies. These are people you least expect. The best spies come from the people you
least expect. They can camouflage in ways that you wouldn't expect them to do so.
They have been trained to lie. They've been trained to cry when they're happy. So all spies have been
trained to lie and cry when they're happy. They're skills that they're given. Yes. All right. They're
cunning. Okay. What else? Anyone? Anyone else? Hidden identity. Hidden identity. Never reveal
who you really are. Fantastic. Fantastic. Okay. And about anything, you guys must be watching
some spy movies. There's a reason why I'm asking all this because I'm curious how far I should go
with this. I'm a lover of spy movies of every kind. I love documentaries on spying. There's
one on Netflix actually called Spycraft. Yes. I don't know if you've watched it.
Yeah. You've watched it? Yes. They're different. Anyway, you go and get time and watch it. But I'm
a big fan of spy things. But we need to understand that there's nothing, and we've said before,
nothing in the natural realm that did not find its origin in some way or another. First of all,
in the Bible. Second of all, in the spirit realm. Or you can say first of all, in the spirit realm,
second of all, in the Bible, whichever. All right. So let me ask you another question.
Can you mention an incident in the Bible of spying?
Joshua. Joshua, what happened? When they were going to the Promised Land,
they had to go spy it before they could take over it. Okay. All right. Any other, any other
incident? I think that's the most common one, eh? That's the most common one.
The earliest mention of spying in the Bible, the earliest mention is in Genesis 42.
You're going to read it out for me, eh? Okay. Genesis 42, 16.
Send one of you and let him fetch your brother, and ye shall be kept in prison.
That your words may be proved. Whether they be any truth in you or else by the life of Pharaoh,
surely ye are spies. Okay. That's the first time. Spies are mentioned in the Bible. In other words,
so the story is this. Joseph's brothers come to him, they have no idea who he is,
and he's playing a game on them, and he accuses them of being spies. Now, what that tells us is that
by that time, spying was already known. So, it goes way, way, way, way back. Yes. Right. So,
by that time, it was clear, and he speaks it in such a casual way. This is a guy who's a high-ranking
person in Egypt, and he's speaking in a highway. In other words, in that time, already they were
spying between nations. Okay. I just had to set that foundation. Yes. But I want to start,
because I've started from the Bible, and so we might as well continue with the Bible and see
where this leads us. We're going to go to the story of Moses in Numbers chapter 13,
because before Joshua sent out spies, Moses sent out spies. Yes. All right. You're going to read
from me. Go ahead. Numbers 13, 17. And Moses sent them to spy out the land of Canaan, and say to
them, get you up this way southward and go up into the mountain. All right. He says, read that again.
And Moses sent them to spy out the land of Canaan, and say it unto them, get you up this way southward
and go up into the mountain. So, Moses gets, now you read the story. He gets 12 spies.
I've just picked out a scripture. He gets 12 spies, each from the tribe, a tribe. Okay. Yes. Each
from a tribe. So, the 12 tribes. Yes. In front of everyone, he sends out these. Spies. These 12 spies.
Okay. Now, read for me, verse 27, 29. Numbers 13, 27 to 29. And they told him and said,
All right.
So, I want you to understand, he sends out spies. Those spies, they were 12 spies. They go,
and you read the story. When they come back 10, give an account, a negative account. You know the
story. Two, who are named. Joshua and Caleb. And by the way, the 12, all 12 were named. You go back,
all the 12 spies that Moses chose are named. Their tribe, they're named. And Joshua and Caleb were
the ones who came with a positive report. Now, the long story short, the people decided to side.
Moses first sides with the positive. Okay. But then the people turned against Moses and Jacob,
and Joshua and Caleb. And so, they decide to side with the negative report. When they side with
the negative report, God, that's the reason why. I want you to imagine where this happens.
They've just left, they left Egypt. They traveled not long. They reached the border
of the promised land. They're just there. They're looking at it. They take the negative report
of the 10 spies. And God says they shall wander for 40 years. Okay. That's where it happened from,
at that point. So, they wandered for 40 years and even says, none of them shall live.
None of that generation shall live except for Joshua and Caleb. Okay. I'm setting my foundation.
Okay. So, Moses first we see that Joseph is the first,
biblically, to show us that they're spying. But then even, and interestingly,
in this story, in Numbers 13, it's God who tells Moses, send out spies.
Moses doesn't just wake up with it, sends outside. So, that's clear. Now, let's go
to the story of Joshua because it's a similar scenario. Read it out for me. I believe it's
Joshua chapter two, verse one to seven. Joshua two, one to seven. And Joshua, the son of Nun,
sent out of she-time, two men to spy secretly, saying, go view the land, even Jericho. And they
went and came into an halos house named Rahab, and lodged there. And it was told the king of Jericho,
saying, behold, there came men in hither to night of the children of Israel to search out the country.
And the king of Jericho sent unto Rahab, saying, bring forth the men that are come to thee,
which are entered into thine house, for they be come to search out all the country. And the woman
took the two men and hid them, and said thus, there came men unto me, but I wish not once they were.
And it came to pass about the time of shutting of the gate, when it was dark, that the men went out.
Whither the men went, I would not. Pursue after them quickly, for ye shall overtake them.
Where she had brought them up to the roof of the house, and hid them with the stalks of
flux, which she had laid in order upon the roof. And the men pursued after them the way to Jordan
and to the forts. And as soon as they which pursued after them were gone out, they shut the gate.
All right. And read from Evers 23. Joshua 23, chapter 223. So the two men returned and descended
from the mountain, and passed over, and came to Joshua the son of none, and told him all things
that befell them. Okay. Now, I want you to imagine, listen carefully, because I want to show you
that a lot in the Bible has set foundations for what we know today. A lot. Even espionage.
You see, we know the story of Moses, the way it took place. Joshua, this time, sends out how many
spies? He sends out two. He doesn't send out 10. He doesn't send out 12. Numbers have reduced.
Remember, the first mission was not efficient and effective. It caused them to work for 40 years.
Mm-hmm. So first thing is, he sends out less number. Today, spying is hinged on the lesser,
the better. True. Okay. Yes. All right. Mm-hmm. Secondly, in Moses's situation,
all the 12 spies are named. Here, they're not. Anonymity. He's introduced.
I can't believe I'm teaching this to them. Okay. Okay. So, anonymity. The Bible says,
he just sent out two spies, and it even says secretly. So, while last time it was public,
this time it was secret. Okay. Also, the person sending out is a professional spy.
True. Mm-hmm. Joshua. Mm-hmm. Yes. He's been there, done that before. Yes. You're with me.
When the spies reach the other side, I want you to read Joshua 2, 2, read 2.
And it was told the king of Jericho, saying, Behold, there came many in Hither,
tonight of the children of Israel, to search out the country. See, so there was counter espionage.
Mm-hmm. And it was told the king of Jericho. Who told him? They also had spies.
Wow. Oh, my God. They also had spies
inside the camp of the Israelites. Okay. Somehow, the moment these two spies are sent,
it was told the king. And you see, you read on the scripture that says they were looking for these
two men. Mm-hmm. Okay. So, these two men entered in anonymity, but someone told the king that these
guys were around. Okay. So, they go to Rahab. This, you would see, the king sends people to Rahab's house.
Hey. No? I want to show you high level stuff. Now, the next thing we see is that
um, Rahab helps the spies. The two spies. Mm-hmm. They now is, now is introduced the concept of an
asset. Mm-hmm. Yes. Yes. Lord have mercy. Mm-hmm. So, Rahab is an asset. Mm-hmm. You could also say
a double agent. Mm-hmm. The principle of double agent first existed in the Bible. Mm-hmm. Do you
know the foremost double agent in the Bible? Judas. True. You see? So, Rahab is an asset.
She's a double agent. So, she saves these men and then she, after the men who are looking for them
have gone away, then she, she makes an agreement with them. Okay. Mm-hmm. Now, these men are given
authority. Okay. Um, she, she gives them information about the territory. Mm-hmm. And she says, one
of the things you go back and look at it, one of the things she says is that we have seen your
exploits, you Israelites. Mm-hmm. In the wilderness. Mm-hmm. And we, we greatly fear you. That's what she
says. Okay. Mm-hmm. Now, um, she's saying that's the reason actually why she decided to help them
because she noticed, man, these guys, they're backed by something powerful. So, I might as well
join the winning side. Mm-hmm. Okay. That's how people flip. True. Flip what? Agents. Yeah. Flip sides.
Because the yore is way. Which side will win? And which side can ride them? So, they make a deal
with her and they go back to Joshua. Now, when we read verse 23, this is what he said, read it for me.
23. So, the two men returned and descended from the mountain and passed over and came to Joshua,
the son of none, and told him all things that befell them. Notice, in the time of Moses,
these guys came back publicly and told the people publicly. These guys, these two spies come directly
to Joshua. Mm-hmm. They're setting a foundation of what actually Esther and Hajji's like. Mm-hmm.
You go to the person who sent you. Mm-hmm. Okay? Mm-hmm. Second, you will look.
When they give the report, while they talk about the land, they also give an account of the
attitude of the people. Mm-hmm. They tell Joshua that people fear us. Okay? Mm-hmm. So, in the time
of Moses, they just gave an information on the land. Mm-hmm. Okay? So, here, the person has infiltrated
not just the physical aspects that has gone to know the identity and the knowledge of the people
and how they feel. Mm-hmm. The people fear us. Notice, the spies never gave their opinion.
Mm-hmm. They just passed on the information. Mm-hmm. In the Moses' time, they give their
opinion. By the way, I could go on. Mm-hmm. But I'm trying to set a foundation to show you
that, now, what I've just given you, as brief as it is, is the foundation upon which
in 1948, Mossad was formed. Mm-hmm. Maria, do you know what Mossad is? I'm sure a person listening
right here does not know what Mossad is. Mossad is, for lack of a better language,
or a better word, it is the equivalent of the CIA in Israel. Mm-hmm. Okay? It's an intelligence
agency, probably one of the most ranked, high ranked in the world. Everyone knows Israel is a
good at spying. Mm-hmm. You just need to go back the history of Uganda in 1970s, when they
they they they they broke into international, uh, interior international airport during the time
of Idi Amin. Yes. And made Uganda look like fools. Okay? And they didn't send a whole platoon.
Mm-hmm. They set a couple of men who just disabled us. Okay? So Israel is very, very, very, very,
it depends, because it's surrounded by enemies. Mm-hmm. It depends a lot on espionage to get,
um, to get ahead. Mm-hmm. You're with me so far. Mm-hmm. Okay? So in 1948, officially, Mossad was formed
and it is hinged, its mission is hinged upon the two spies. Mm-hmm. That Joshua sent out,
its foundation, its structure. The two spies that Joshua sent out. Now, every country on the face
of this earth has a spy network. Mm-hmm. I want to assure you that while there are natural means
to spy on people, for example, um, nowadays technologies are means. You can get spy cameras.
Mm-hmm. Okay? Televisions are used. The cameras on televisions and laptops are used to spy on us.
You've heard of big brother. Mm-hmm. Yeah. If you have, to spy on us. Nowadays, they use drones,
satellites, uh, our mobile phones. Yeah. Uh, WhatsApp is being hacked. There is nowhere
where information is not desired. Okay? Um, and usually, nowadays, there's a lot of,
um, the excuse they give is terrorism and so on and so forth, just to be able to get,
but the thing is that no government wants to risk not knowing what their people are up to.
And so remember when I told you, information is extremely important in the realm of men and in
the realm of the spirit. Yes. Information is important because not only do governments
spy on people, but they also keep information from people. Mm-hmm. Okay?
That is the very definition of politics. Okay? Now, in every government on the face of this earth,
whether you believe it or not, spiritually means are also used to spy.
Mm-hmm. Not only just natural means. Now, I have to take you all the way back because this is going
to be a bit of a, of a historical study, but a brief one. In 19, in the 1980s, the Cold War
ended. The Cold War was, as you hear it, a war between the U.S. and Russia, or should I say,
the Western Russia. Mm-hmm. And, uh, the reason they called it a Cold War, you know why? Yeah.
Uh, no firearms involved. It was political. It was political. Yeah. In nature. All right?
Now, when the Cold War ended,
the U.S. discovered in the 1980s that Russia, since the 19th century,
had been carrying out experiments on the paranormal. Mm-hmm. In other words, they were
studying the spiritual realm. Mm-hmm. When the Americans found out of this, they wanted to know
how far Russia had gone, because if you're finding out in the 20th century, in the 20th century,
and someone has been working on this since 19th century, you're behind. You with me? One century.
Yes. So, here's what happened, and I'm really summarizing a lot of this stuff.
When they did their deep research through their own espionage, they found that the Russians
were studying paranormal activities, not only in the spiritual realm, but the abilities
of men to influence and enter that realm. Mm-hmm. Now, what I'm telling you is true,
you go and search it, you go on YouTube, and I'm going to give you some few places you could go.
Mm-hmm. Now, the Americans began to panic,
because they realized, they found out that the Russians had discovered that it was possible.
There were certain human beings on the face of this earth who had the capacity,
from any position on earth, to be able to see
into locations and places that were far beyond their physical position.
Mm-hmm. Okay? Mm-hmm. And then they realized that the Russians had also discovered that not
only could these people see, they had the capacity to astral project.
Okay? Mm-hmm. From one place to another, and pick secrets.
Mm-hmm. Now, we already see the root of that in scripture. You know the first person
who astral projected or who got out of their body to check on secrets?
Mm-hmm. The Bible talks about it, Elisha. The Bible says it. Mm-hmm. I says there's an entire enemy
that were worried of Elisha, because he always knew the secrets of the enemy before they attacked Israel.
He understand? Mm-hmm. He could get out of his body and was able to spy on them.
So now, the Russians had discovered that this wasn't just a religious thing. It wasn't for
Christians and people were connected to God. Please understand. They found out that there were
beings on the face of this earth that had the capacity, for some reason,
to project themselves to specific locations and capture information.
Mm-hmm. Now, the Americans began to panic because it's easy to counter espionage something natural.
True. But how do you protect yourself from spiritual espionage? Are you with me?
Mm-hmm. And so they began to start their own project.
In the 1980s, 1990s, they began to start their own project. I'm going to tell you later about
that project. Now, then from the 1980s towards the end of the 1980s, 1990s onwards, to date,
to date, there has been a secret astro war. Mm-hmm.
An astro war between nations, counter espionaging, if there's such a word.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. A secret counter espionage between nations.
There was a war that took off. It exploded. Now, Americans started training their people.
Russians started training their people. Some of the names that stood out, there was a man called
Pat Price, and I'm going to touch this briefly. Pat, Pat, Pat, Pat Rice or Pat Price, one of those,
Pat Rice, he was one of the most profound astro projectors the Americans had found.
Now, please understand this into me, child of God. There's a difference between astro projection
and actually jumping out of your body as a Christian. Astro projection is illegal. It's where
men decide that, you know what, without the guidance of God, without the confines of the
protection of God, they want to navigate the spirit realm. Okay? That is astro projection.
When you're jumping out of your body, as a child, we already showed that Elisha did it,
that there is in the Bible, in the book of Ecclesiastes, have you heard of the Silver Code?
No, it's Romulite. You can't Romulite, no, no. Give me Ecclesiastes chapter, oh God, chapter 10,
verse 12. Ecclesiastes chapter 10, verse 12, I believe.
And then we'll see where we can go from there, because I'm really jumping a lot of things.
Ecclesiastes? Give me 10, verse 12.
Ecclesiastes chapter 12, the words of a wise man's mouth are gracious,
but the lips of a fool will swallow up himself. Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm looking for the
scripture. We'll see what to do with this.
All right, as I look for the scripture, so a Silver Code is mentioned in the Bible by the
wise man Solomon Ecclesiastes, and he talks about a Silver Code. Every man, believe it or not,
actually has a Silver Code. The Silver Code is an invisible thing that connects
your spirit to your body. Okay. Okay. What's the scripture? Ecclesiastes chapter 12,
verse 6, read verse 6 if you can. Ecclesiastes? 12 verse 6. 12, 6.
Okay. 12, 6 says,
So when these guys studied, when these Americans and these Russians began to study the human body,
they realized that as they took pictures using light, as they took pictures when people were
first asleep, they did it. First of all, the first thing they began to realize is that around
every human being, number one, there was a form of energy. Yes. That's one. Yes. Secondly, they
discovered that in every human being, there was a light or a fire inside of you. You know, the
Bible says the spirit of a man is the candle of the Lord. Inside us, there's a burning fire. It's
not a little light. It's a fire that burns. That's why, you know, people don't realize that when
you're actually involved in deep prayer, you heat up. It's not just, it's not just your body,
you know, you're actually from the realm of the spirit, you're burning and you're exuding light
and fire. Okay. All right. Yes. So that's the second thing they discovered. The third thing
they discovered is that it seemed that human beings, every human being had a silver cord,
that whenever these guys projected themselves out of their bodies, when they astral projected,
they had a silver cord almost like how an astronaut is in space. And as he's going to
take a spacewalk, he attaches himself to the ship and then takes a spacewalk. Okay. That's how it
was. So when they would get out of their bodies, there was a cord that was keeping them attached
to their human body, like the umbilical cord. Yes, like an aha. It's actually a spiritual
umbilical cord that keeps you. Now, please understand, oh God, I don't want to go ahead of myself.
So when this war started taking off, they started to realize as they sent people deep into the realms
of the spirit through astral projection, they started to realize that Holdon, they're different
areas, they're labels, they started attaching labels to areas in the realm of the spirit.
And so, and please understand, this is not a fiction or this is fact. You can go Google
part price, you Google Ingos one. You will, you anyway, you just Google them. You can Google
what they call the third eye movie. Third eye movie. It explains that in detail. Now, please,
this is a Christian broadcast, but I need to explain what I'm trying to show you the enemy,
what the enemy does it. Now, so this government started setting people into the realm of the spirit
and they discovered that they were different areas. The first area they labeled a they labeled it a
because it's familiar. When someone got out of their body, they stuck to the areas that they were
familiar with. So, for example, when you get out of your house, you're familiar with the neighborhood
and so on and so forth. So, when you get out of your body, when someone got out of their body,
they would stick to the areas that they know, they labeled that a. Then as the astral projectors
began to go further, they found that there was a place they labeled B. B was an area that you're
not familiar with, but it's still within the realm of men. So, for example, if I left my body now,
and I went far beyond my house and went, say to state house, a place I've never been, that would
be area B. In the realm of the spirit, there was an area B. It was still within the realm of men,
but men were it was an uncomfortable realm, but they could handle it. Then they discovered that
there was an area called that they labeled C. C was labeled limbo and they labeled it limbo because
when the spirits of certain men reached that area beyond area B, beyond the realm of men,
they started to reach areas where they found it hard to come back. When they found it hard to come
back, those who did come back started to explain and describe this area, the spirit realm. Please
understand, that's how all these areas were labeled because they are being described by the people
that were sent out. And so they began to notice that as people were astral projecting, they were
stretching the silver cord and the silver cord was having an impact on their bodies. So some were
coming back older, some would fall sick and there are some because in Ecclesiastes chapter 12 verse 6,
the wise man says the silver cord is loosened or snaps. When that silver cord snaps,
the spirit of a person goes. Now, I'm talking about people who do this thing illegally. They jump
out of their bodies but do not use the avenue of the spirit of the Lord because I gave you an
example at the beginning that Ezekiel, in Ezekiel chapter 11, was taken out of his body and in
the spirit was shown the people that were responsible for the chaos in the city. And so area C, they
labeled it, many people were getting lost there and many people were dying. And I can assure you
in this time and age, there are a lot of people who do a lot of astral projection illegally. Okay?
And they are getting lost. Pat Rice was found dead. Pat Rice was found dead in his hotel room.
Till this very day, they don't know what the cause was. But from what I understand is that his silver
cord must have snapped. He wandered farther than he could. All right? And there are many experiences
like that that the CIA and the KGB had. Then the last level was D. D was where they discovered that
as they wandered in the spirit and went beyond limbo, that there were beings that existed in D.
They labeled that experience of these dark beings as the Hades environment.
This is the CIA. It was labeled the Hades environment or the Hades experiment because
they realized that there were dark beings that were in level D, that were trying to find a way
onto earth, but did not have a channel. And so there are times certain men who projected
came back possessed and they don't know what happened to the original person who they sent out.
And so a spirit took their place. So the FBI started to, and sorry, the CIA started to be
careful with the people who they sent out there because they wanted people who knew exactly what
they were doing. Pat Price was supposedly a person who was supposed to know exactly what he was doing,
but even he, you know, died in the process. And so I needed to understand that this took place,
this took place and is still taking place today, that people are still projecting,
people are jumping out of their bodies. People, I remember an experience a friend of mine had.
Should I say this? I was attending a ministry somewhere and a prophetic person picked out a guy
and told him that the spirit of the Lord says, you have been desiring to get out of your body
and said, today you shall get out of your body. And this person was excited. I remember it clearly.
That night he got out of his body. The next session, the next fellowship, a week later,
when we met, he went up to give a testimony and he had wounds on his mouth.
I'll never forget this. And he said, this is a Christian now. He said he got out of his body
and was excited, you know, started wandering around. Let me see how far I can go at some point
after wandering around, because often when people get out of their bodies, they first,
you want to be close, close by, because what if you don't come back? But then
he wandered and wandered farther and he said he reached a place where he found a spirit of a witch.
Now, I really, I have to be balanced on this because there is a Christian side to this,
but he found a witch and was, he found himself in a battle with this witch.
They fought. He said they fought the entire night. He got back into his body and he realized
that that fight had impact on his body. You understand? And so he came back with those wounds
and from that day he told me, I'm going to go slow on this thing. Okay. That's what I mean by,
there must be a level of knowledge and also authority before you wander farther into things
that you have no clue about. You are my child of God. And so they found that these demons and
things were trying to find their way into that world. It's like almost a portal that was being
opened through this astral projection. And so they tried to be careful with a lot of these things.
Now, I have to explain something that when you, when people wander, the way, the way this world
works is that when people wander into, from what I've learned about getting out of your body,
I had to explain this. The reason why it's wise for someone who knows what they're doing to
seclude themselves and be in a room or somewhere far away and close the door is because I've found,
now many people have many, many different theories on this, but I'm telling you from the
people that I've talked to, I've found the reason why they seclude themselves is because
when you take on a position and you get out of your body, you need to be in the same position.
When you come back in. You come back in. If someone walks into a room and starts playing with your
hands and people get trapped in that world, like that.
Are you with me? And so, children of God, I want to emphasize something that there is a biblical
way through biblical meditation to actually, by the Spirit of the Lord, be taken to places
and see places. Now, whether you, I know there are some Christians who are going to have a problem
with this, but as clear as they, it is true. If the CIA and the KGB could find that indeed
there are, that human beings have a capacity, they have a power, that they haven't harnessed,
that we have capacity to do things that we never thought we could do. That's why I was telling you
that later they started realizing that they started testing, trying to see if they could
carry out what they called astral assassination. And astral assassination was simply, you know,
can I go in the spirit realm and kill someone? All right? And so there are a few people that
you would find that they did an experiment. All this you can find it out. They did an experiment
where a guy was told to astral project. He was given an image of a person. And he was told to
stretch out, imagine that he was struggling that person. And in the other room, the person was
choking. Okay? Now, this is at a national level where people are using, you know, spirits to try to
fight each other at governmental level. Are you with me? Are you with me? And so, these things
are taking place. These agents that they had formed, who I believe are still existent,
they were called Spook agents. Agents that were sent by governments to enter the other world
and spy on governments. Spook agents. So leave your double O agent.
There's a higher one. There's a higher, there's a higher what? Agent. And so this, I really,
I'm going to summarize all this. Now,
the devil has strategies. He will infiltrate. He will assimilate. He will empower. I said again,
he will infiltrate, assimilate, empower. And we're saying that infiltration all over the world,
today churches are being infiltrated. Okay? They're infiltrated by demonic people and they're
infiltrated by people sent by the governments because if you're a man or woman of God and you
have influence, you can influence numbers. You are worried to a government. So they'll watch you.
But also the demonic world has to watch you. Why? Because if you can influence many, if they can
turn you, they won. Okay? They've gained an entire following. And so if they can't turn you, they
want to see your weaknesses as spiritual espionage. They want to know where can I touch this person.
But you see, it's not only men of that level of influence, men and women of that level of
influence that are aspired on. Child of God, when you have dreams in the night,
when you have a dream in the night, and I'm just going to give you one example,
and you see eyes all over you, not all over you. Eyes looking at you. That dream is a sign that
you're being watched. I'm giving you an easy interpretation. Okay? Let's live the dream world
if you're walking around. And you felt someone is watching you. You're being watched. You are.
Because your spirit man inside is more awake than you are. I was telling someone that when the
Bible says the Lord prepares for me a table in the presence of my enemies, it's not just
saying that God will raise you up in front of people who have done things against you.
What is actually saying is that God actually raises his children when there are spirits watching,
people who mean you bad. There is no one whose table has never been set in the presence of an
enemy. No one. Because there is no time here, my child of God, when you have ever been alone.
There are angels watching. There are human beings watching. The God is watching. Demons are watching.
Okay? You're never alone. You have a bigger audience than you give yourself credit for. I really
don't like going wandering into the dark world, but I guess this information is important.
And people will understand the spirit in which I say this, because I really wander into this,
and I'll probably never wander into it in fellowship. But for the podcast, I will.
There are tools that people in the dark world will use for espionage.
Okay? One of those tools, and remember in the past podcast, I said that we're being watched
first by God, then by demonic spirits. We're being watched by angels. We're being watched by the
elements. The sun, moon, and stars can witness for us and against us. Okay? We're being watched.
I discovered that people in the dark world, remember the scripture I gave you in Micah
chapter 5 verse 12, when I said that you can plant something in the moon and it comes forth
with the sun. With the sun. And so you see the scripture that says, I have seen an evil under the
sun. Princes are walking on foot and servants are on horse. That scripture, while it's on a lower
level, it's talking about how children of God who are the princes of this earth are operating
way below their word, their level. But on a higher level, what it's talking about,
that person is saying is that it is possible, an evil under the sun, it is possible
for certain places and certain people to be put in a position they're not supposed to be in it,
because someone has used the constellations.
Someone has used the constellation and used it. So these guys can use constellations and be able to
navigate and impose certain things on earth because of these constellations on the moon.
And so I don't want to go deep into this. But ideally, the moon is a very important factor
for people who do a lot of witchcraft and all these things. And not just any moon.
First is the full moon. Second is the red moon. Third is the eclipse. Fourth is the blue moon,
which is the most important, comes after every 17 years.
We'll read that. So they use a number of tools. And any other tool, for example, is they'll use
water. They'll use mirrors. They'll use animals to spy on people. They will use as many tools
necessary to get as close to you as possible to gain information. Now, for the child of God,
this is important, because God sometimes can also send you out to be a spy. I have seen many
children of God. I had a story that annoyed me. There was a child of God who a man of God prophesied
to and said, God has sent you to go and get that job. And the child of God went for the interview.
And the first thing they announced is that I'm a Christian. And you see, sometimes you need to,
that's why Jesus said, the people of the world are more shrewd than us. When you announce to the
enemy, okay, this is why many people are not getting jobs. They don't know how to enter as spies.
You blow your cover. You blow your cover. You think the enemy is a fool. You're going to
announce that you're a Christian and he's going to say, oh, why not? Come on in. That's not how it
works. You are sent as spies. There are places we're sent to infiltrate and to take over, assimilate,
pretend that we're part of, then take over. Are you with me child of God? Because we are first
approaching a time. Let me tell you, the end time war is very strange, because when it's at its climax,
there will be a war on earth, a war in the waters, a war in the sky, and a war in the
heavenlies. I want you to imagine Star Wars, okay? It's going to be, okay, it won't be bloody
because spirits don't believe, but here the analogy is going to be bloody.
And remember, spirits don't die. If spirits don't die, what is the war over?
Think about it. If spirits don't die, what's the war over? Give me your opinion.
Winning souls of men, okay?
Territory. Yeah, it's a war over territory. That's it, and even men are territory. It's a war over
territory. And ultimately, listen to this, God is going to win. We know that, we know the Bible says
that, but give me Psalms 2-2. I really want to wind up there. Psalms 2-2, Psalms 2-2,
the kings of the earth set themselves and the rulers took counsel together against the Lord
and against his anointed, saying, let us break their bonds asunder and cast away their codes
from us. He that siteth in the heavens shall laugh. The Lord shall have them in their share.
This is an end time scripture that there are people now led by demonic powers who are devising
ways against the Lord. It's not just a scripture for the sake of a scripture. It's an end time
scripture. It's a scripture for now. And it says the Lord shall laugh. He laughs. Now, I need you to
understand something. I talked about us heading to the climax of all things. We're getting to a
point now, like Moses against the magicians. That's the war that we're at. It's not physical
anymore. It's Moses against the magicians. It's your power against mine. Okay? That's the level
that we're at. So if the child of God thinks they're just going to sit there and pray and
let's get people born again and all that is important. But you need to harness your identity
in Christ Jesus, because I'm telling you, there are no jokes. The devil has taken this realm of
warfare to the dream world. When you're asleep, he has taken it to that realm. I will tell you,
sleep paralysis. Okay. Have you had a sleep paralysis? Sleep paralysis is okay. It's the
Kano version of what we'd call literally an attack of the enemy, where a demonic entity attacks
someone and they can't move. And you feel you're choked and you try to speak and you can't. That's
what they call it. Yeah, you immobilize this. That's what they call sleep paralysis.
There's even a sign of it passed in the book of Job. We've been in Job, but really,
in Job chapter four, one of the friends of Job speaks and he says,
one night a spirit passed by me and the hairs of my body stood up. And he said,
I was filled with fear. That is a form of sleep paralysis if I could say. The devil has taken
this battle to the dream world. Where most men are asleep. Because if you read through
scripture, Jesus says, he gives a parable. He says, while men slept, the enemy came and sowed.
Okay. Now let me give you a nugget. When you go to sleep at night,
there's a posture you need to take. When David said, let me ask you, I was asking someone,
David said early in the morning, will I seek you? That is obvious that you know, he's talking about
prayer in the morning. Then he says, also late in the night, I will meditate upon you.
Okay. Now if you're sleeping, unless he's talking about every single day, he's not sleeping.
He's not just talking about just before you go to sleep. He's including the realm of sleep.
Now how do you meditate even in your sleep world?
What you do before you go to sleep will determine your world when you're asleep.
Correct. Okay. And that's why he's saying, even in my sleep, even in the night, deep in the night,
my heart is on you. He doesn't have to be cautious. Okay. Okay. So sometimes when I'm going to sleep,
I'll have a scripture on my heart. For example, kings shall come to my rising and I sleep off.
I sleep off. What I'm doing is, even in my sleep, my heart is set on God.
Children of God must learn to do this because this enemy here is not asleep. He's no fool.
Okay. I'm really, really, really summarized this. Now here's how you guard yourself against such
things because the enemy will use various tools like I told you. And I told you there are people
who carry out spiritual espionage. Read for me. Did I give you Jeremiah 10? Jeremiah 10 verse 2?
Okay. So what he's saying here is that there are a lot of people, these guys who are using astrology
to study the stars, they can capture messages from the sun, moon and stars, absent of God,
because these things speak, but they do not speak a certain knowledge. They have a knowledge in and
of themselves. You can predict the future to some level. You can gain knowledge from the powers of
the constellations. But here they're saying, what he's saying is that don't be like the heathen
because while they look for signs in the sky, please understand the reason for,
give me, oh no, leave it. The reason for why God created the sun, moon and stars, I said it before,
is not so that they could just shine, but there were signs for seasons. But the Bible says signs
will follow us. We don't follow the signs. We are the chief manifesters of God's message. Are you
with me? But that doesn't mean that you can't learn something from the constellations. I'll
have a teaching on that all by itself. But there is a war going on now between governments. The
climax of it will rise with the coming of the Antichrist because the devil is trying to take over
governments. He's trying to take over. He's trying to infiltrate, assimilate and empower people of
his to ensure that there is a division. Finally at the end times there will be a division between
what they call God nations and sheep nations. There is a division taking place at this time
and that division is based on who, who's in charge of the territory. A child of God,
irrespective of what the enemy says, irrespective of the things that he has planned for you,
you are insulated. You go back and look at my message on the school of the spirit,
where I said sometimes God mutes conversations so that the enemy does not have an advantage.
There are things he cannot see, there are things he does not know. I would like to say this lastly
because I could have said a lot on this, I've really summarized it.
There is, the enemy does not have the capacity to read your thoughts.
He can't read them. He can only plant their thoughts only. He can only tell what you're thinking
based on your reaction. And that's why he will use environments, shake them, move them,
so that it can reveal to provoke what is in your mind. That's the only way he can know
if he's getting somewhere. Okay? That's why the Bible says hold fast therefore to the profession of
the faith. It says, in quietness and trust, strength is found when a person is steadfast and
immovable. The enemy is rendered useless because he has no capacity to know what is going on.
What is going on deep inside there. So he can only plant. And with planting a thought,
the Bible says you bring every thought under the captivity of Christ. Okay? Any thought that
exerts itself above the knowledge of God will bring it under captivity. I use me. So you are
insulated. There's a cloud around you. The only way secrets are revealed is if you yelp too much.
Silence is a very powerful weapon in the realm of the spirit, especially when people talk against
you. Never, never, ever, ever, ever go out to touch an anointing. Never. Let people, never. I'm
wondering into something else but I have to end. Never, ever, ever, ever speak out against an anointing,
especially if you don't understand what they're doing. Okay? These things I'm under a great
anointing so I can speak against any other anointing. You are joking. There are people I can assure you
whose lives are not shifting simply because they fail to shut their mouth. If you don't understand
something, let it be. All right? Child of God, I really have to stop here. I would have said a lot
about spiritual espionage, especially in the astral realm and so on and so forth. Perhaps we shall
touch that another time. But I want one or two questions and we end it.
All right, everybody. We're back. We just have one or two questions and let's dive in.
Yes, thank you so much for opening our eyes yet again. My question is you shared with us about
how people in the other side of the world are utilizing this gift to tap into
secrets in other nations and things like that. But I wanted to ask how can I, as a Christian,
tap into this art and maximize it to my benefit? Okay. In other words, how does a Christian benefit
from this? Well, first of all, someone would be saying what was the purpose of this whole message?
Well, to create awareness, first of all. But secondly, there's a reason why I have not purposefully
taught people how to jump out of their bodies from a spiritual perspective is because there are
a lot of curious people out there who like doing what they do not understand. But I'll tell you this.
Meditation is very key. Often, if you want to learn anything in the realm of the Spirit,
the Lord, through hunger and desire, the Lord will take you through steps of teaching you.
So I'll give you an example. Not every dream that you have at night is for interpretation. Some
dreams are meant to teach you how to interpret dreams. Not everyone sent your way with a dream
that they want you to interpret is sent because you're deep in interpretation. Some dreams are
sent your way to teach you how to interpret. In the same way, the experiences you have out of
body experiences that mainly are sent your way to reveal things. But secondly, to teach you
progressively how to grow in these things. Don't just have it and go back to sleep.
One way to grow is meditation is very key. And meditation, most people don't understand,
has levels. The lowest meditation level of meditation is in the book of Joshua. This
book of Delos shall not depart from the ellipse. You can speak word, scripture, or you can speak
in tongues. Okay, that's the lowest level of meditation. There's an effect on your body.
Then the degrees of meditation, the highest of which is getting out of your body.
That getting out of your body takes a controlled environment. Especially if you're learning,
it takes a controlled environment. Number two is we don't meditate like the world. We don't meditate,
we don't blank our mind. We meditate upon the word. So as you're meditating upon the word,
the Lord will begin to reveal things to you. I have found it happens at levels. The first level is
you begin to see things. Then after seeing things, you begin to hear things. After hearing things,
you begin to talk to things. After talking to things, you begin to go to places.
It's usually a progression. Okay? Unless a person is graced. There are people who are graced with
these out of body experiences, but some people misuse them. They don't know what they're talking
about. I would encourage you to be careful with this. Venture in as a child of God, but allow the
Lord to take you step by step and always have someone near you who you can trust, or someone
over you. Because there's a lot in that world that people do not understand. Okay? And I'd also like
to say this, that we will do a teaching on this someday in its true detail. I'm really just
giving highlights. The true message was spiritual espionage. But as a child of God, I want you to
know that every secret against you will be revealed. Every secret against you will be revealed,
and the Lord will open up to you and open your eyes to the things that are going around you and
give you direction on what to do. You don't necessarily have to jump out of your body.
Someone can pick you out, prophetically, you can have a dream. But I want you to first grow in
the simple things of God, elementary things of God before we jump to other things. Okay? And I'm
talking to a child of God here. Yes, last question. Is it possible to have an out of body experience
in a dream? Yes. Just like it's possible to have a dream in a dream.
It's possible to have an out of body experience in a dream. The Bible talks sometimes in the
night, I remember there's an experience I had years back where I woke up in the morning, my phone
was ringing, and I reached out to hold the phone and my hand passed through. And I turned back and I
saw my body, and I began to panic. Okay? And I tried to look for a way to get back into my body
and someone, I know it's the spirit of God inside of me, told me, turned the head to the left.
And so I turned my head to the left and I was able to enter.
Okay? And I'm sure that many people out there have had experiences like this, but usually it shows
men are capable of a lot of things, even without God. But you're vulnerable. Now, I would like to,
I would like to just go to Jonah chapter two and we'll close with that.
Jonah chapter two. I'm going to read. I'm going to show you that Jonah actually when he died,
he got out of his body. All right, go on. Jonah chapter two. Then Jonah prayed unto the Lord,
he's caught out of the fish's belly and said, I cried by reason of my affliction and to the Lord,
and he heard me, out of the belly of hell cried I and thou hadst my voice. For thou hadst cast me
into the deep in the midst of the seas, and the floods compassed me about, and thy billows
and thy waves passed over me. Then I said, I am cast out of thy sight, yet I will look again
toward thy holy temple. The waters compassed me about, even to the salt, the depths closed me
round about, the winds were wrapped about my head. I went down to the bottoms of the mountains,
the earth with her bars was about me forever. Yet thou, yet has thou brought me up my life from
corruption, O Lord my God. When my soul fainted within me, I remembered the Lord, and my prayer
came in unto thee, into thine holy temple. They that observe lying vanities forsake their own
mercy. But I will sacrifice unto thee with the voice of thanksgiving. I will pay that I have vowed
salvation of the Lord, and the Lord spark unto the fish, and it vomited out Jonah upon the Lord.
So quickly I could spend a lot of time in this, but this is, Jonah speaks in past tense, he says,
and said, I cried by reason out of my own affliction. So he's speaking in past tense. If he's speaking
in past tense, that means the event he's referring to happened in the past, a few minutes back or so.
And he says, and I cried by reason out of affliction unto the Lord, and he heard me
out of the belly of hell cried I. At what point was he in hell? This is not allegorical.
And he says, and thou hadest my voice. Then later he says, the earth with her bars was about me.
I don't know if I will when I teach on the levels of Hades and hell.
The scripture shows it that there's a level of hell that is bad. It's called showel.
Okay. And then he says, last he says, I went down to the bottoms of the mountains, the earth
with her bars was about me, yet has thou brought up my life from corruption. Now notice what he's saying.
This is one of the key scriptures to show something here happened.
He says, I went down to the bars. Then he says, but you have present brought me out of corruption,
but he's still in the belly of the fish. So he can't be referring to the fact that he's outside
the fish. The event, the event he's referring to happened somewhere in the past and he's just
come back from it, but he's still in the belly of the fish. That's why he says, he says, he
now brought up my life from corruption. Oh Lord, my God. So his body, when he was in that fish,
somehow you could say he died. His spirit started descending to the depth. That's why
there's a part where he says, he says, I went, I was cast out of thy sight, cast out of thy sight.
Okay. He started going, then he called out unto the Lord and God brought him back into his body.
Okay. So the prayer that he's giving, it says, and Jonah prayed unto the Lord, he's got out of the
fish's belly. So the prayer that he's giving is a prayer that he's making after he has come back.
He has come back and then the Bible says, verse 10, and the Lord spoke unto the fish and it vomited
Jonah out. So Jonah has an out of body experience. Experience. Praise the living God. Children of God,
I want you to understand that you are much more than you ever give yourself granted.
I want you to know that learn to meditate through scripture, understand that you're capable of
feats you never imagined. I want you to know that you can actually see things in the realm of the
spirit. You can travel to places in the realm of the spirit. It is something the Bible actually
encourages. But if you do not know what you're doing, it is very, very risky. The covering has to be
right. The training has to be right. And there has to be some level of desire and intimacy with God
to be guided into some of these things. God bless you. See you next time.
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