And even love you, love by father. And even love you, Lord. My heart, it beats for you from precious Jesus. And even love you, Lord. Hello guys, welcome, welcome back to the R.D.M. radio show. This is Derek Murwa, also known as Derek the Priest and I'm with the nun and with nun and then Rave Daniel Malinga. So we've been talking about life and death, we've been talking about life before these life and the time realm, we've been talking about the existence within this time realm and life after this life, you know, after you die, there is erection and now all those different realms interact with each other. So we are continuing deeper therein within that subject, sharing mysteries, sharing revelations and I'll now give the mic over to the Rave Daniel Malinga. Thank you Derek. The past few sessions we touched a number of things, we talked about what happens when someone dies and the process of death and we said that there is a clear process, the Bible says dust shall return to dust and the spirit of a man shall return to his maker. So and we said that when someone's body does not return to dust, that is one of the reasons why a spirit would remain in this realm. When someone is not buried, it's one reason, doesn't happen all the time, but it's one of the reasons why a spirit would end up being a ghost, a spirit of a man, ghosts, ghosts, spirits of the dead, which are different from demonic spirits and familiar spirits that sometimes can take on the shape and form of a human being. Now then we also talked about the levels of what happens to a believer when they leave this earth. We said that Bible says how precious is the death of one of his saints, the eyes of the Lord. So we talked about names and how when you transition from this world that their levels are below go through. Now I would like to touch something before we go into what actually happens to the non believer the day they die and the realms they go into it. There is, according to Scripture, an appointed time for us to be born and there is a day to die. And we said in the past that there are, it's possible for someone to outlive their day of death, appointed day and for various reasons. We said the Bible says, oh, now your father and mother and you shall have a long life. So there are things you can do on this earth that can extend your time to your day or night. Even when the assignment is over, you see people like Billy Graham, Billy Graham lived to be 99 years old, but it seemed his assignment on earth ended like when he was 75 or something. And so God kept him here for reason is a blessing of long life here on earth, having been faithful. And so there are people like that who who outlive their time periods because of the faithfulness, the part here on earth, but it's possible for you to die before your time. I want to touch this quickly before each other thinks that there are three reasons, the same reasons why a person can die before their time. One is because God takes them before their time. You can die before your time because God has taken you and I'll show you to you in Scripture. Secondly, a man can die before his time because of his stupidity and foolishness, his own acts or the acts of men generally. And lastly, a person can die before their time because the enemy can come in and cause a death before time. Now at least just a seven verse 17, what does it say? It says, be not over much wicked, neither be thou foolish, why should you die before your time? So that shows you that it's a death that is simply because of the foolishness of a man. So you can do things if you jumped off a building thinking you could fly unless you have a revelation, a pure revelation of flying and that you have tested in your bedroom jumping of your bed. Unless you have that, that is stupidity because the low gravity must take its toll. And so a man can die before his time because of foolishness of sin, this thing, this thing is on TikTok and YouTube, a guy goes and hangs off the edge of a mountain, slips and falls and dies. That has nothing to do with God. And on many occasions, many of those people, it is not an appointed day of death. It was just stupidity and their life is cut short. So it's possible for life to be cut short. And by God, God judges, because actually it's judges, Genesis 38-7, Genesis 38-7, it says, and Arr, Judah's first born, was wicked in the sight of the Lord and the Lord slew him. Is it? Because he was wicked, God took him. It was not his appointed time. It was because of what he was doing in time. And you must understand that this happens here on earth, that the amount of wickedness that someone involves themselves in, they can cut their life short. That's interesting because even his brother after him, yes, everything happened to him. Also cut short. So now even, I don't know, I don't know if we'll touch it or try to avoid it, but there is a judgment for leaving this earth before your time, especially when it has to do with your stupidity or weakness. Now there are times the enemy will also try to kill off particular individuals before their time. Some on his side, some demonic individuals that are working with him, that have given their lives to him, but maybe they are on the verge of turning away from him and getting to God and he tries to kill them before their time, they've had stories of that. But also he can try to kill saints, people who are working for God. Now if you remember the story, the Bible says that James, who was the pillar of the church? So there were three pillars of the Ali church. There was Peter, there was James and John. Because this is not James the brother of Jesus, this is James the disciple, according to Acts chapter 12, so James is killed, he is beheaded by Harold. Now the same scenario happens with Peter, that Peter is imprisoned, taken to prison and was an order for him to die. Peter doesn't die, why? Because Scripture says that the church prayed for him. And so it is possible that James death went through because they did not do the same thing for James. I get what I'm saying, that when James was arrested, there is no record of the church praying for him and so he was killed and so a pillar in the church, possibly died before his time because the church was ignorant and did not take its its role as of prayer. This way it's important to pray for men and women of God, understand that the devil can wipe them out and affect the entire church. Now if these guys are not freed, Peter would have died because it's clear that it was the prayer, he had helped Peter. This is why you must take time to pray for anointings, you understand? So just for clarity, you can die before your time by the hands of your foolishness. You can die before your time by the hands of God, you can die before your time by the hands of the enemy and the enemy can be hindered by prayer. The other two, unless you pray for the for the person's foolishness, but even okay even with God, you can pray for someone when they end their weakness, but just know that when you see people constantly wicked, most people who are constantly wicked, unless they've tapped into a supernatural demonic force, their lives are often cut short. They don't live long okay and there's a reason for that so God will cut their lives of now. I'm going to go into some things that are normally ought to have been uncomfortable with but let's see how far we're going to listen. When someone's time is up here on earth, so I hope you've understood that the three levels that I've explained, ESES, that their times, however, a person can be summoned by God, back home, no, not just back home, okay, you can see back home, but can be summoned by God for particular reasons. Now it's a reason why some people will have out of body experiences and in the natural they're dead, okay, you touch their bodies they're dead and then they come back into their bodies, but someone has gone to the other room for a particular interaction with God, it's a summoning, okay, so you can die before your time as a summoning and then be sent back into your body, people don't know this but their times you will have an experience in a dream and actually die, you know, we talked about how death and sleep are similar. And their dreams you have and take a deep breath and you're sweating and it's like you've come back into your body, you want there and then they're different from this other simple dreams, it's an out of body experience dream, where a man is summoned to a realm for particular reason, sometimes, sometimes maybe there's an accusation against you that needs to be sorted a particular way, remember Zechariah, Zechariah witness something in the spirit when he was taken up there as the high priest and the Bible says, let remove the filthy rugs from him and let rugs of righteousness be put on him, their experiences may have that are not just out of body experience, they literally die and there's someone in the spirit for whatever reason and judgments are decreed in those experiences, then they come back into their bodies. First to ask, in that situation is the silver cord cut loose, it can't because you come back, okay, you come back, but it's still death because it's a form of death actually it is as referred to it as sleep, whereas you've left the body because as long as you're not in this body realm, you're dead, you've left it, but as long as that silver cord is still connected, you have the ability to come back, but there's someones that are made by good here and now, that's why some people when they go into like comas, when someone is in a coma for a long time, some of those people are dead from a clinical perspective, the person is brain dead but is in a coma, okay, their heart is still beating, now, some of those people are summoned to particular realms, now it's interesting how time, time operates differently in the spirit world, you could have a dream here for two minutes in the natural and it's taken 25 years in the spirit, you've gone through so many stages, you've made friends, then you wake up, it was two minutes, the reverse is also true that you could have been asleep for 10 hours and then in the spirit it was two minutes, okay, now why I'm bringing that up is that someone can be in a coma for years, but they're having an experience that is very brief and it's there's someones, that's what I'm trying to say, that when there are deaths that happen as a result of someones and I don't know how to go through this but sometimes a person can be called to answer for something and if they fail in terms of the testing that they're given in that room, they could actually die and not come back, so you're taken into that other room, you go through a test of a source and the failure of the test means you don't come back, the passing of the test means you come back and you see here many people's experiences and I was tested like this and this and then the road says go back, but they're people who we don't hear their stories because they never came back, they say he went to sleep and never never woke up, some people like that they're tested in that room for whatever reason and either they fail or something and they don't come back, it's a very big mystery, now the reason why I've brought that up is because I want to share with you something that I experienced a couple of years back, because we talked about when someone's time is up, when they are buried because dust should return to dust then the spirit of a man, so when a person is fully buried it's like the transition, it allows the spirit to transition into the other room and leave, the decomposition of the body allows the person to detach from this world and leave, now it doesn't cut across, so that's a general perception but the exceptions to that room, now when someone's time is up, let's say you've died according to the calendar of God, if you die as the appointed time, whether you buried or not, your time is up, understand it, you go, again you can't return to this room because according to the things of the spirit, the rules of the spirit, once your time from here on earth is done, that's it, however, there are individuals when their time is not up, if they are not, if they are buried, there is an opportunity by the wisdom of God to be able to go back that spirit into the body, you see that's why we're talking about Jesus could look at some people and know that this one was asleep and this one, this one is gone, because according to the timeings of God and the book of God, your time is up, you're not sleepy, you're gone, but if your time is not up, if you've died before your time, there is a possibility to have you back, this is the reason why, on the contrary, should it always rush to bury someone quickly, because they can be, if they've died before the time they can be brought back, now how do you know someone has died before their time, a number of things, you look at the life of a person, you talked about it, if a person has been consistently mocking God and so on and so forth, okay, they're mocking God, they are wicked and so you look at their age and it's, you say, okay, based on their time from here on earth, a Bible says, a man will live to be 70 by reason of strength, 80, and again, it's 25, okay, and you look at his life, there's a possibility to bring that person back, interesting, a lot of experiences where there's a one their way to hell, you know, angels are guiding them or add demons until they make sure they enter, it gets, it's like there's a possibility of a spirit escaping and maybe we are resurfacing on the earth and roaming around as a coast, yeah. So, so, um, a person could die before, remember when the young God died, scripture, what was her name, Tabitha, she dies before her time because she's young, the first thing Jesus does, they don't bury her, notice they don't bury her, you go and read the scriptures, they wait and they inquire of Jesus and he says she's asleep, actually she's not named Tabitha was docas, oh, yes, yes, yes, she's not named, yeah, that's the goal of Talitha Kumi, yes, okay, yeah, so, so he brings her back and so it takes wisdom and discernment to know that there are particular people who die and there's a possibility to bring them back, but when the time frame lapses, they cross a time frame where now they can't be brought back, because they're buried, they're gone, they're finished, they can't be brought back, yet there was a possibility to what? To bring them back, to bring them back, I don't know if I'm making sense, because of the fact that a person can die before their time, wow, so there's a certain period who could say, yeah, so from my understanding it seems as though for people that died before their time, there is a certain available time to have them come back, maybe by reason of someone, you know, stepping into that gap and attempting to resurrect them or bring them back into this but if that time expires, they are gone and they will cannot return, irrespective of the fact that they could have had a second opportunity to, you know, to leave life and continue, yes, yeah, and you see, I am of the belief and yet to look through its scripture, but I'm of belief that the way you resurrect an unbeliever is not the same way you resurrect a believer, because you have to bring them from different realms, develop different realms, let's say if Hitler had been evil and Hitler, I don't know what age he died, but he died before his time, because he was a young, okay, now, yes, sir, you're trying to bring back Hitler by virtue of all the evil that he has done, it's not just a matter of resurrecting him, because they need, from the spiritual perspective, there has to be a standing or signing the life of the man and interceding to bring that man back, irrespective of the things that he has done, it's different from a believer's perspective, I don't know if you get what I'm saying. Yeah, the level of intercession that has to happen for him is different. And when I say intercession, I'm not saying just praying, praying, praying, I'm saying from to stand in the garden to play this cause, yeah, it's not the same thing, it's too much to defend. And this is why we think, I believe the most powerful miracle is resurrection, he on earth, right after salvation is resurrection, there's no miracle more powerful than that, because it defeats death. Now, even the resurrection is a different, like that's what I'm trying to tell you, that is not just get up and walk, there's a secret behind here and a revelation, understanding that a person needs to have in order to make this happen. It's the reason why, when Jesus walked on earth, he did not resurrect every dead person, he went to specific people, it's the reason why if you hear the stories, Archbishop Benson, in the host said that when he had just got born again, he went on the street, strength raised dead people, he raised seven, seven out of numerous, so why did the others feel? Because it was their time. I don't know if you're getting what I'm saying, the power is not different. Yeah, yeah. Because he had the same level of faith. Yes, but seven people get up. The difference between Jesus was he could tell this one, since time, this one is not. Now, for us, every person who's dead, you want to resurrect. I guess you can go, people would go to mugs and try to raise the dead and they pray for the dead and, oh well. Interesting, it seems that two factors in play and comes to resurrection, it's the faith of the man, because obviously on the other side, there's no faith you need to connect to it, the man is dead. And then also the aspect of timing, does this man still have that, you know, reservation of time on the earth realm? Yes, yeah. And that knowledge is extremely important. That's why being prophetic, oh yes, is important, because with the prophetic you can tell, the Lord still has a plan for you, this guy died before his time, you can pray and extend the life of a man here and I. You see? Yeah. Now, I want to share with you something. So, there was a man years ago, who, and this is, I'm going into realms that I can't really explain, but they, they'll give, they'll admit to that discussion. Yes ago, there was a man of God who helped out a friend of his, I'll say a friend, but it's actually a spiritual son, called Enoch. Now, Enoch was struggling financially. So, this man of God went through levels to try to help Enoch, you know, get back, get back, make his ends meet, and all that. And he would help him with money, help him with a lot of money, a lot of money. Then he reached the extent where Enoch now, the man of God asked Enoch to move in to his house, to avoid all these struggles of rent and so on. He said, there's room, take a room, you know, live with me and my wife and all would be well. So, Enoch stayed with him for about five, six, seven months. Then one day, the man of God comes home and finds that Enoch has robbed his safe, taken all the money and disappeared. Now, this is a true story, okay. Rob's him and disappears. The man of God never hears of Enoch. Again, four years, years pass, eight, nine years. He let go of the fuck that the money had gone, it's gone, it's gone, there's nothing you can do. Now, about nine, 10 years later, there's Enoch at the door, Enoch walks in. And the man of God is having a recording, a YouTube recording for his Sunday church service or something like that, okay. Now, there were many people in the house, because he was doing this recording and so someone goes to a door says, there's a guy called Enoch who's at the door. The man of God says, Enoch says, okay, tell him to wait because I'm doing a recording. So Enoch waits for about an hour, he's in the living room, waiting, these guys go in another room because when the man of God finishes, he goes into the living room, greets Eric. I mean, Enoch, so this Enoch, everyone had seen him busy, shaking hands with people, some people knew him from the past, other, not. So when the man of God walks in, shakes hands with Enoch and says, it's been long, where have you been? Enoch says, he says, man of God, he doesn't answer the question, he says, man of God, I'm here because I treated you badly. The good things you did for me, he did not deserve me stealing your money and disappearing for all these years. So I've come to ask for your forgiveness. And the man of God said, what are you talking about? Yes, what you did was wrong. I says, and Enoch and she says, I'm going, I'm asking for your forgiveness because they won't let me in unless you forgive me. And the man of God is like, what the heck are you talking about? Enoch kneels down. And I want you to imagine that they're people in the room, they're about 12, 13 people in the room, about five, six of them knew him. The man of God lays hands on him and says, I'm forgiven you. They sit with Enoch, they eat what? Enoch finally knocks the man of God and lives. Two weeks later, Enoch's best friend shows up to visit the man of God. The man of God says, oh by the way, Enoch was here two weeks ago. He says, Enoch died one year ago. He says, that's impossible. Enoch could not have died one year ago. We were 13, 14, 15 people in the house, he came in in the flesh. He ate food. He greeted him. He asked for my forgiveness. And he said that they won't let him in unless I forgive him. You know? And Enoch's best friend took the pasta to the barrio site. And that date was a year before. Now, I told you I'm explaining things that even I do not understand it. But you know how we said in the previous episodes that they are the reasons an unfinished business can cause a spirit to stay around. But the difference with this particular story, because there are many like this around the world where someone who dies shows up physically. People see him, they touch him, he talks like he's normal, then disappears and no one ever sees him again. That there seems to be in that other room for some reason that I feel to understand where some beings are given permission to come back and sort something before they absolutely depart. Now, someone will say, familiar speed, but a familiar speed does not have a physical body. It's a familiar speed. You understand it? I couldn't understand this. I listened to this story and this is a man of good I trust telling me this story. I couldn't, even he, I couldn't reconcile how? Okay, let's say you've died on Gandhi other side. What do you mean by they won't let me in unless you forgive me? What do you mean by that? It's like there's something even before judgment for his judgment was postponed until... We can only speculate. I'm just telling this story because there are mysterious things that happen on this earth that we cannot explain. We like to simply fight things. I listen to a well-known man of good say, you know these things of people come back their lives until you have experienced it. Don't start saying that their lives. They're unexplainable. The guy is coming acting like he used to. He's asking for forgiveness then disappears no one else sees him, but he was buried here before. So there seems to be a thin veil that allows some beings to come back in their form to sort out something and leave. Okay? I'll tell you another one. This is a famous actor. There's an actor called I hope I don't butcher the name. It's my pellet William song. There's a black man, a famous actor. You're going to look it up. Now he told a story of... And I'm really going to make this short. He told the story of how he grew up in the U.S. in the Bronx and all that and the hood and all that. And he had a friend called Adrienne. His best friend, Adrienne, was... You're going to Google this and go to YouTube. Adrienne was... Adrienne was his best friend. But he had a drug problem. He was in a typical bad boy, gangster. That's Adrienne. Yeah. Okay. Now they lost touch at a certain point. Now this particular actor says, he's called Michael William song. I don't remember the name. Let me see if I can get it here. So that it gets someone... Ah, Michael T, M-Y-K-E-L-T-I. Okay. He killed T William song. Or Michael T, whatever. Now he tells the story. So their best friends, they've grown up in the hood. They lose touch. Now this William song guy, he had a habit. At that time he was an upcoming actor. He had a habit where he's going to check in on his mother. And he says that his grandmother and mother were both spiritual. They had a gift. They could tell when death was upon someone. Now, this is where I need you to understand that that in the natural... If you're not in the natural person can look normal, but in the spirit spirits and people are designing can tell when death is pursuing someone or they are both to die. They can tell. And they can also tell whether it's temporary or it's... By temporary, I mean, like if someone be averted. It can be averted or it's a thing that is, you know, it's certain still. So this guy is grandmother and mother. Both had that ability to see death on someone. In fact, I met with someone in my ministry, a lady I met also has a gift like that. Now, he goes to visit his mother and his mother does something that she has never done before he can get into the house. She comes out running and says, go home. What's going on? But because he respects his mother, he gets into the car and goes home. He comes back the next week. This is the person who visits his mother every weekend, comes back the next weekend. The mother runs out and says, go home. He asks for an explanation, nothing. He goes home worried. He thinks to himself, there must be something that's wrong. So he continues doing that and his mother keeps on telling him, go home, next financial. One day he gets a phone call from his mom. I need you to come home as soon as you can. He says, scared worried he jumps into his car, his home, goes to the house. The mother opens the door tells him to come in and tells him to sit down. And now his son, his heart is pumping, then the mother tells him, your friend Adriyan was here a couple of weeks ago looking for you. But I saw death on Adriyan and it could not be avoided, his time had come. But I also saw that if you had met him, he would have taken you with him. Now these things, and this way I tell you, there are also some people by virtue of ignorance that die as collateral damage. Now the mother says so he died, someone shot him, he's dead. And now he understands where his mom was acting. So worried and heart that his best friend, back then, has died and didn't take time to talk to him and all that. He goes back home. He's eating dinner with his girlfriend. And the phone rings. His girlfriend goes to pick up the phone. She talks on the phone for about two minutes and turns and looks at him and her face is white. She gives him the phone, he picks it up and he swears that on the other side was his best friend. The best friend, Adriyan, who had died a couple of weeks back. Now he says there were a few people who called me Mike, Adriyan was one of them and I knew his voice, we had been friends for years. Adriyan is on the other side, Mike, Mike, I need your help, only you can help me. I need you to help me before they come back and Mike is trying to understand what's going on. So he's like, where are you? What's happening? He says, I've run away from them. This is Adriyan. So I've run away from them, but only you can help me. Please. So this guy is trying to understand what the heck is going on. He thinks maybe someone is playing. I click on him. But the voice was too familiar. Now he says he could hear in the background, like what you'd call a banning furnace. Then he had beings coming from a distance, he could hear their voices, but as they were climbing closer, you could hear on the other side, Adriyan is panicking. Mike, please help me, please help me. Then suddenly these beings on the the other side shout, get off the phone. Now I had so many questions. A phone. And so they grabbed him and you could hear the scream and the fear as Adriyan is dragged away. And when he's dragged away, the phone goes to the block. Now this guy is telling this story. This is a famous actor. He's going to check him out. He's telling this story. And he said, if I was alone, I would have been hallucinating. But my girlfriend was there with me. Second, that I called the operator to see if I could track the phone call that had just received here. Now, there was a sign that there had been a phone call, but they could not track where it was coming from. So the operator tells him to wait for the bill, a telephone bill, because the bill will show where it came from. The bill comes. He said he knew the time and the place, I mean the time that under date looked through the bill. There was no connecting call. Something supernatural had up in there. Now this is why I'm trying to show you that there seems to to be some sort of loophole from the other side, that some spirits can be able to connect with people here on earth. Now, I don't, I'm telling you, I can't back it up by scripture. But I'm trying to show you the experiences people have that. Like, what is that? Is there a telephone on the other side? Where a guy can be able to call that a spirit, a demon can say, get off the phone. You know, secondly, how was that guy able to help him? He's going to the other side. How is how is my going to help him? But he's saying you, the only one who can help. Wow. A lot of questions. You see, and this is why I was telling you that the issue of life of the death is not a simple issue to just sort, because we could go into dreaming about the dead. Where a person who died comes shows up and gives you instruction. You wake up and maybe the instruction, I'm talking about people who have been told, oh, you're looking for my will. There it is. And you wake up and you're following the instruction of a spirit that came in a dream of a person who had died and the instruction is right. Now, there are so many dynamics of this because there are familiar spirits that can put on the faces of people who have passed away. Okay, that is the majority. But there are cases where someone who passed away is given access to this room to get a message across for various reasons. And some of those people come in the dreams. Someone died and comes. I told you one time, I told the fellowship on time of two girls that were losing their grandfather. So he's on the deathbed in the hospital. And he touched them and asked them what time they go to sleep. And the one says eight together and says nine. Then he says, I'll see you when I'm gone. And after he dies, he shows up in the dreams of both of them at their respective timeframes and says, I'm probably a good boy. So what is that? If it's a demon, what does the demon gain from that? It's hard to say it's a demon because the guy's the guy made that communication before he tries. Yes. So there's a revelation he had about the afterlife. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. So gets I noticed just for sure. They're not. They're saving a purpose. Yeah. And some people for some reason have the ability just like you and I, if we went through meditation, we can access that room. Okay. There are people from that side who can access this room. They're not many. They are laws that keep the room separate. But there's so many things that I just not making access. They're not. You know the story of when Jesus resurrected and all these guys got out of their graves. There are so many questions there as well. Yeah. So for me, the questions I ask are the Bible says they were saints. That means they've been dead for a long time. Those bodies would have deteriorated. In fact, they're just bones. Okay. If these guys are resurrecting, something must have happened. Super natural putting all their bodies back together. Those graves are opened up and these guys are walking the streets. There is something. I pray the Lord gives me deeper revelation on it because it's something that I've been meditating about. But there seems to be something that breaks the rule of the separation between the spirits on the other side and the spirits on this side that allows some degree of interaction. Now someone would then say what about psychics? You know, these psychics that make the channel dead people and that's very demonic. Those are actually familiar spirits. They're actually familiar spirits because some of these people start talking like the person. You know, that is very, very demonic. That's a different thing altogether from what I'm talking about. I'm talking about where there's no medium. Yeah. Oh, understand there. A spirit just shows up. Well, someone may be wondering what's a familiar spirit. And for my understanding, a familiar spirit is like a monitoring spirit that has observed the man's life. And so they know every bit of this man and can, in a way, represent him or replicate his, his personality. Even when the man is not, you know, present anymore. And so they will come and find the man's presence and give instructions and what, but it's really just cause confusion. It's really just a demonic spirit playing around. Yeah. But the difference between that and the ghost is that the ghost is the very spirit of the man. You see, I remember one time I've told this enough times a fellowship. I met a lady and at a hotel and I meet this lady, I'm sitting down with that. And all this time, a man just shows up and sits right next to us, facing us. And I'm busy looking at him and he's looking directly at his guy was wearing a cape, looking directly as real as I'm looking at you right now. Now in my mind, I thought, I thought everyone can see him until this lady got up to leave and the man followed her and the waiter comes to me and I asked, I asked about the guy with the hat. She says, there's been no one sitting there all this time and were there for almost three hours. That's when I realized that there was a spirit. And what is that? That's just, I have, I can't, I don't know. Is that a familiar spirit? Is that a demonic spirit? Is that a ghost? What is that? Is it an angel that has put on earth? What is that? And you see, you see, just don't listen to this audio at night. My aim was not to, but we have to talk about these things because there's so many questions about them. Yeah, true. It's also difficult. They really just, you know, attitude towards, you know, if it's not written in scripture, it's not true. It's not to be, you cannot deny what is right in front of the experiences of men. Yeah. It's an experience, a manner that an experience is never the mercy of one with just an argument. See, imagine in the time of Jesus, so many people had drowned at sea, that it was prevalent at that time that ghosts or dead people would walk the seas. That's why when Jesus walked on water, they said it's a ghost. Yeah. Okay. And Jesus did not debunk that kind of mindset because ghosts of human beings actually exist. They're actually there. But for whatever reason, something keeps some things here on this earth. They are whole different category by themselves, away from demonic spirits and so on. Wow. Okay. So we need some ghost vastal. You sure? Let's talk of vendetta as certain people who live the earth. But the man in which they left something was done to them. And it's like by reason of that experience, they cannot leave. It's like they're seeking revenge while on this plane, while on the earth, the earth plane. Yeah. And you see, what if you try to relate the scripture of Lazarus, a parabhupa of Lazarus and the rich man, the rich man asks to come back and understand it. By the time he asks, it means there was a possibility. True. But in that particular scenario, Abraham refuses. And the thing is that he's not asking God. Wow. He's not asking God to come back. He's asking Abraham. Yes. Which implies that there's some degree of authority that is given to certain beings in the realm of the spirit, that God delegates certain authority. And Abraham tells him what's the answer he gives. He gives. He says they have Moses and the prophets. So in regards to that particular scenario, that being was not allowed to come back. That's why we can also use that to cement what I was saying, that you can't just resurrect anyone. Imagine someone on the other side, trying to resurrect the rich man. Yet Abraham in this spirit is sick. They have Moses and the prophets. Interesting. So resurrection itself needs legalities. You need to know certain things in the spirit. Oh, you need to carry a certain degree of authority. I believe a lot of resurrections have been lucky. Lucky in the sense that not by the miracle itself, but a sense that the person probably didn't know, that no clue what's happening. What's happening on the other side. So they just come and you would who knows on the other side, they said, if someone prays for you to come back, you'll be able to go back. And you're sitting there saying, go back from the go back. Someone comes and says, get up and walk and you come back. I'm just presuming. But a lot of these resurrections as miraculous as they are, the people clueless of what they're doing. But they are people who know who can look and see and who have been to the room of the spirit and know their navigations. Interesting. So he's gone through their messages as hard when it comes to leisure. So not even just Jesus. Remember when the young man fell from the window and died when Paul was preaching. And that was clear. You could see it was a mistake. So he has died before. His time. Interesting. So the guy died and instantly, Paul goes to resurrect him. There was no barrier. There's no amount of time, which speed it is still there. Yeah. Wow. Okay, we're going to have to run this one out. Any questions before we close if we've done about 51 minutes? For now. Okay. Got blessed. You see in the next session. All right. Thank you guys for tuning in. Please, if you have comments or suggestions, questions, put them within that comment section. And we'll definitely, you know, regard them when we're having these discussions. Thank you so much and see you on the next one.