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Hello guys, welcome back to the RDM Radio Show.
We're back again, and we're going deeper in revelations and mysteries,
discussing the topic to do with life after death.
But we're not just about life after death,
we're also talking about this life in the time-room,
but also pre-existence before you come into this realm.
What were you doing?
How does that inform your life within this time-room?
And how does that translate into their life after?
Because we know that we have assignments,
we have activities, we have missions,
we have things that we are going to do responsibilities.
All these things we have been discussing in previous sessions,
and we're just going to go deeper and deeper there in.
Before we pick it up from our last discussion,
let's address some of the questions.
In case you missed it, you're listening to Derek Muhira,
also known as the priest, and I'm with the rabbi.
So let me ask, let me share some of the questions
that were asked on the RDM app.
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or the App Store.
So question number one, I'm keeping them the anonymous.
So question number one says that rabbi is go deeper
on the topic of reincarnation.
And then they ask a second question.
Ten person asks, and they like to mention something
as regards to different versions of self.
Please shed more light.
So another person also asks the question,
and it says that if Deja Fu is a function
of the spirit remembering,
because we discussed about memory,
and we said that the body has memory,
the soul has memory, and also the spirit has memory.
So he's asking that if Deja Fu is a function
of the spirit remembering, how is it that none believe us
have such experiences as well.
And yet their spirits are dead or dormant.
So let me allow the rabbi to take this on
and answer these questions.
So for the topic of the issue of reincarnation,
we'll touch that at a later date,
because it's a whole other topic of itself.
Then soon I'll also be sharing on the different phases
and stages of the human life.
So I'll answer the question on the Deja Fu.
The understanding is that once a man
is not connected to God, he's dead in spirit.
But it does not mean that he's dead to the spirit world.
All right.
Because the Bible says he has set it on it in the hearts of men.
It's because men are not dead to the spirit world that
they can dream, they can have Deja Fu,
they can see certain aspects of the spirit,
they can sense things that are unseen,
because they are primarily spiritual beings.
So being a spiritual being means that even if your spirit is dead,
you still have access to that world.
So I hope that answers that question.
Yeah, that does.
That does.
The belief that the issue there was just the misunderstanding
of what death really means, spiritual death.
It is not being dormant.
It is just being disconnected from God.
So because they are alive, they are still animated
and allow to function in the realm of the spirit.
They also have access to these experiences.
So yes, that does.
That's quite well.
Okay.
So we're going to go ahead and continue from where we stopped
in the last session.
Do you remember we stopped?
Yeah.
We talked about, we talked about the different stages of life.
We talked about papas.
We talked about books.
We talked about how life is scripted.
You know?
And so you also have choice.
What are the boundaries of even choice?
You know, some things with destination,
with destination.
So we touched a number of things,
and in essence we're talking about life before birth.
Yes.
So now there's a lot in there,
but I want to transition to life of the death
to get to the heart of the Christian that was asking.
All right.
So I want to transition to life of the death.
And what we're going to focus on?
I'm going to do this in parts.
First, I want to talk about death generally.
Then we shall go.
We shall move on to the death of a believer
than the death of an unbeliever.
Okay.
And I think that will wrap up.
Of course, maybe I have to at a certain point
touch things like reincarnation
and many things.
I don't know how to be able to touch everything.
That would be the trajectory within which we move.
So today, based on that level of reasoning,
we start with death generally.
Now, there are three dimensions of death.
There is death.
The event.
The Bible says it's appointed for each man to die once
and then thereafter, judgment.
There's death, the event.
We'll talk about that in a moment.
There is death, the entity.
A scripture says death and Hades were thrown
to the lake of fire.
Then scripture goes on to say,
death, where is the victory of grave with the stinky?
Or death with the stinky?
And grave with the victory.
He's talking to an entity.
Then finally, there is the dimension of death
that is a realm, that's the realm of death.
That is the realm that death, the entity has control over.
When a person dies,
and they are not in Christ,
they go to the realm of death.
They realize at that point that there is a death
after the death that is transition in this life.
The encounter, the true death.
Now, first Kings, chapter 2, verse 2,
David said something.
He's not the only one who said it.
Last Kings, chapter 2, verse 2,
it says,
I go the way of all the earth.
Be thou strong, therefore,
and show thyself a man,
and keep the charge of the Lord thy God
to walk in his ways,
to keep his statutes and his commandments,
and his judgments and his testimonies,
as it is written in the law of Moses.
First part, read it again.
I go the way of all the earth.
So, he's referring to death here,
and it is the way of all the earth,
and he's not the only one who says it at some point,
other saints in scripture say it.
He's referred to as the way of all the earth.
Now, this is very, very important.
That the moment Adam sinned,
before he sinned,
there was a different law
that attained to all the earth.
It was referred to as the law of life.
And now after he sinned,
the way of all the earth became the way of death.
Now, notice when he says all the earth
is not referring to men,
just trees die,
animals die.
It's the way of all the earth,
so everything dies.
And so,
I'm going to say a number of things that we'll see.
And so,
to exit out of this world,
unless
your life, when the Christ is around,
is returning,
or your life during the rapture.
When the rapture happens,
this is the way of all men.
It's the way of all earth.
That men die,
and leave.
Now,
we don't know
if other realms that were created by God,
death had touched them.
We don't know.
Because this is the realm of earth.
This is the realm of men.
But we know that before Adam,
that tentac of death,
did not exist in this realm.
Something brought
both the being,
the event,
and the potency of that realm,
onto this earth.
Now,
from the time of Adam,
the strength of death
has increased.
The strength and the influence of death
has increased upon men.
We see it in the fact
that even after Adam had died,
he lived 900,
and something years old.
And as time kept on going,
the age began to reduce,
meaning the potency of death.
More influence.
And as we know,
things are decaying faster.
In fact, the Bible even says
the heavens works old.
So, the death has influenced
over everything that is connected
to the realm of men,
including the skies,
and the first heavens,
the second heavens.
And so,
everything is decaying
at a faster rate.
Some things faster than others,
but everything is dying.
And so, we reach a point in scripture,
where it says,
by reason of strength,
a man might die at 80.
What scripture is that?
Some is 90,
you can read it for me.
You'll never of us do.
I'm just 90,
and last 10.
It reads,
the days of our years,
our three score years,
and 10.
And if by reason of strength,
they'd be four score years,
yet is their strength,
labor, and so,
well, it is soon cut off,
and we fly away.
Okay?
So, you can see now
the timeframe of reduced strength,
but men live on this earth,
that the potency of death
will be increased.
Now, when the Antichrist comes,
we'll see a certain dimension
of the influence of that spirit here on earth,
that we have not seen before,
the Bible says in those days,
men will look for death
and fail to find it.
It's a very different kind of influence,
which I don't want to touch here,
but it's a different thing
altogether.
Now,
just like Bath
is an entry into this world.
Death is an exit out of this world.
Yeah.
Out of this world.
Yeah.
There is,
I've told you that there is an entity called Death,
but what many people do not know,
is that before you come
into this realm,
where death has some sort of rule,
there is in Scripture
an angel of death.
Now, this thing is
because the question I would ask you is,
is the angel of death a demonic angel,
or a divine angel?
Oh,
it's a tricky question to answer
because we look at the reference of the Passover,
you know,
and the reference is made towards that event.
It realises that yes,
it's the end of death.
But then again,
in some references,
it's like they're saying God,
God designed passing over,
you know,
and he's not taking the first point,
because they mentioned that God designed it,
took the first vulnerable agent.
Yeah.
Everybody tell us.
I don't think I'll tell you,
but what I'll say is this,
I'll say this,
that each realm has its representative of death.
Okay.
Is one of the divine?
Okay.
One of the demonic.
That's very interesting about it.
I've always been curious to the fuck
that are there two angels representing both sides.
And how does that also,
you know,
what's the dynamic,
even that a fad of the angels fell away?
So two fads were left.
We're going to end up talking about the angels,
which I don't want.
Yeah.
But what I also need you to understand is that before you come
into this earth,
we think our spirits are just center,
but their levels of protocol.
Okay.
You don't just come.
It's the reason why no spirit can just enter the realm of men,
by will.
And one of those levels of protocol,
and I really hesitate to say this,
but one of those levels of protocol,
is that death must permit you.
Hmm.
Oh.
You need a parsley from there.
I wish I could.
Hopefully, as we go on, we'll talk about this.
But no man enters this realm.
You see how Jesus says he came to die.
Yeah.
Because this place is not our home as it is.
It's just an avenue by which we pass through.
Yeah.
And so you must have been sent,
you must have an assignment,
and there must be a point to which you live.
Unless you are in that generation,
that will be around when the Christ returns.
So I say one of the protocols is that death must permit you.
Okay.
Now, let's stick to the Bible.
Yes, before.
Now, there is a link between death and sleep.
Yeah.
The scriptures say they compare them.
Jesus said of the young girl that died.
He said she's sleeping.
Yes.
Simple as others.
And simple as others.
That it seems that when the spirit of a person is still within the realm of men,
that person is not dead.
Okay.
Now, please understand that we go through stages when we die.
From the physical perspective,
your pronounced dead when you're clinically dead,
which is your mind has stopped working.
It's not when your heart stops.
So in your brain is dead.
That's when they call you clinically dead.
So the heart could still be functioning,
but medically you're gone.
Okay.
That's body.
So your pronounced dead from a scientific perspective that way.
Then you go through stages.
Your body changes color.
Your blood begins to clot all that.
Now from a spiritual perspective,
Ecclesiastes chapter 12 and verse 6 and 7.
Yes, we did.
Ecclesiastes chapter 12,
verse 6 and 7.
It reads,
says,
or ever the silver cord
be loosed,
or the golden bowel be broken.
Or the pitch are be broken at the fountain
or the wheel broken at the system.
Then shall that dust return to the earth as it was
and the spirit shall return
unto God who gave it.
Okay.
Now,
it says the silver cord be broken.
Yes.
So there is something called the silver cord
and we all know now that
you and I,
and every other human being is able to work this earth
without their spirit jumping out of their body
because something keeps the spirit in the body.
Because if you are to navigate the process of death,
the moment someone dies, the spirit leaves.
What was keeping the spirit in the body during the time
they're walking?
It's not the heartbeat.
It's not the brain.
Those are all scientific.
It's the spiritual cord.
Now the dynamics of the silver cord,
the dynamics of the silver cord are different for whoever you ask.
But we know that one,
the silver cord is elastic.
Because when a man goes out of his body,
has an out of body experience,
the only reason he's able to come back is
because the silver cord is still attached to his body.
I mean, it's still attached to his body.
It's the thing that is like how an ambico cord
is attached to a touch as a baby to the mother.
So in the same way,
the silver cord attaches the spirit to the body of a man.
Now, it could be one of two ways.
Either it's just the spirit attached to the body
or it's actually a cord that wraps itself
even around the body and the soul and the spirit.
And when all the babos is a three-fold cord,
cannot easily be broken,
that all three are tied together.
And they become one.
So when you're walking on this earth,
they move it.
Now, when a person dies, it snaps.
And when it snaps, there's a separation from the body
and the spirit leaves and cannot return to this room.
And we'll talk about how when that spirit leaves,
it doesn't just go to heaven or hell.
The silent level, the stages.
So that spirit leaves.
We know that it's elastic
because when a person gets out of their body,
they come back.
It doesn't snap yet.
We also know it's magnetic
because it's kind of like a soup.
Yeah, it's a recoil.
You pull back into the body.
So it's magnetic in that sense now.
Death and sleep are relatives.
In fact, they're almost the same thing.
The difference is that with sleep you dream.
Okay.
Now, death
has its version of what you call dreaming
in the sense that when someone dies,
if they are believer,
the equivalent of someone sleeping and having a nice dream
will be the equivalent of a believer dying
and having a good after experience.
And the equivalent of someone sleeping and having a nightmare
is the same for the non-believer dying
they experience.
Okay.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
So that's how they're related in the sense that
in the sense of death and sleep.
And so many instances
that when someone's spirit leaves their body
and they have quote-unquote died,
they don't totally leave this realm right away.
Okay.
And from studying scripture,
you understand that when the spirit of a man
is still within the realm of men,
that spirit can still be called back.
Now, it takes a certain type of person
even after the spirit has gone
to call that spirit back.
Because Jesus waited four days
for Lazarus.
Because there was a belief in that time
that the spirit of a man still hovered
after he had died
for three days.
So he waited four.
That's to the point.
That if now the spirit is gone,
I can still do that.
I can still bring someone in back.
So you have to understand,
it's important to be very well vast
and knowing why he did certain things
the way he did them.
And then this is a young girl.
She's not sleeping.
Because, but there are people
during the time of Jesus,
when they died, they were dead.
You would have gone around
resurrecting everyone.
So even he knew the dynamics.
He would know the dynamics.
He would know this one is sleeping.
This one is gone.
And they could be gone for a number of reasons.
One, it is appointed for each man to die once.
That means the cycle
of the day of their death had come.
Their appointment had reached.
So they are gone.
And according to heaven's book, it's done.
But there are people who died before their time
for various reasons.
And there are people who live past.
That's funny.
The Bible says that full day is before the day.
Yes, it says the full.
So a person can die before their time
or foolishness.
Let's go through them.
You can elongate or prolong your life,
your life, your path.
The Bible says honor your father and mother.
Yes.
You shall have long life.
Why?
Because they are the avenue by which life
is given to you here on earth.
And so when you honor that vessel that God
has used to give you life,
that gift is longer life.
You can get what I'm saying.
There are avenues.
If you look through the Bible,
it says, touch not my anointed.
Do my prophets know her.
Touching an anointed of God can reduce your life here.
I'm telling you.
This is why people don't,
they're just like throwing around.
Even in the time of grace,
there are people who died before their time
because they said or touched someone,
they shouldn't have.
It was like David knew that principle.
That's why you don't have faith.
You know, and you would take your life.
And you see, in relation to that also,
the Bible says,
when Paul was persecuting the church,
Jesus shows up and says,
are you not afraid?
Why do you?
Keep thinking of the pricks.
Do you know that if Paul had not heeded
the instruction of the Christ,
you would have died sooner.
You just look at the warning.
Jesus gave him.
So if you attack the church of God,
your life is shortened.
The Bible says that it's a common sitar,
I just think to encompass tribulation
to them that trouble you.
Yes.
You see?
So these particular aspects,
the place here that you can die before your time.
You can die on time.
You can outlive your time frame.
And I personally believe
that people currently working this earth
who are not yet died.
And for various reasons,
they've captured the mortality.
Okay.
And they have purposes that God has given them
and so on and so forth.
Like when he turned to John and said,
if I want him,
if he tear it like that,
till I come, what is it to you?
And of course the scripture goes on to say
and they said that he will not die.
He says, but that's not what he said.
But there are very many dimensions
by which we can interpret that scripture.
Today I won't go into that.
But there are people who are working this earth.
Now, some's 116.
Okay.
Some's ones.
Verse 15,
I believe.
You will have a robust story.
It trades,
say, some's 100.
And 16,
verse 15 saves precious in the sight of the Lord
is the death of his saints.
Okay.
So he says,
precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of his saints.
That means there's a difference between the death of the,
the righteous and the death of the non-believer.
Two are not the same.
Yeah.
Okay.
In Numbers 23.10,
Balaam, the prophet says something that I find interesting.
Okay.
Numbers 23,
verse 10,
hmm.
Say,
who can count the dust of Jacob and the number
of the both part of Israel?
Let me die the death of the righteous
and let my lust and be like this.
Read it like a man of God.
Huh?
Who can count the dust of the,
who can count the dust of Jacob and the number
of the both part of Israel?
Let me die the death of the righteous
and let my lust and be like this.
So there is a death of the righteous.
It's not the same way.
You see now from the physical perspective
we all think,
you know, you see people dying.
We do not die the same way.
And the processes from the physical
they look the same,
but from the spiritual they are not the same.
Okay.
That's why to the sense it says how precious
is the death of the saints,
one of his saints,
the eyes of the Lord.
Yeah.
But let me show you,
Abigail,
someone says something.
Abigail?
Yes, Abigail.
David's wife.
Ah.
For example,
25 was 29.
Was it somewhere?
Was it 29?
25, 29.
It reads and says,
yet a man is risen to pursue the
and to seek thy soul.
But the soul of my Lord shall be bound
in the bundle of life,
with a Lord thy God
and the souls of thy enemies,
them shall his sling out,
as out of the middle of a sling.
And he shall come to pass
when the Lord shall have done to my Lord
according to all the good that he has
spoken concerning.
Is that first 29?
We don't need first 29.
Only first 29.
It says,
yet a man is risen to pursue the
and to seek thy soul.
But the soul of my Lord shall be bound
in the bundle of life,
with the Lord thy God.
And the souls of thy enemies,
them shall his sling out,
as out of the middle of a sling.
So,
she's describing
by revelation.
What actually happens?
To an unbeliever's soul
or an enemy.
She calls them the enemy.
That their souls
are slung.
It's like you die
and you're falling.
I want you to understand it.
That's not how a believer dies.
And he says,
the Bible is clear.
It says,
the souls of thy enemies.
They are slung like one from a sling.
And it's one dimension
of how an unbeliever
soul leaves this earth.
Okay.
It's falling.
But not just falling like you're full of a building.
It's falling like you're being slung.
Cut up,
cut up,
what the death of an unbeliever
and the death of a righteous.
But I'm trying to show you
just in general
the Bible perception
on death.
Okay.
There's a friend of mine
a couple of years ago,
actually who told me this story
in the US.
There was a group of
those at school that was
preparing to go for a mission
in another state.
And they got one of these
small planes.
Okay.
They boarded it to about
25 students
on their,
going to Patricia Gospo.
Okay.
And so,
as the plane took off
and was flying to the next state,
something happened
and it
malfunctioned.
Okay.
Now,
when it malfunctioned,
it began to fall from the sky.
Before.
Now,
when it began to fall,
the believers inside,
I'm going to tell you how I know this,
the believers inside the plane,
began to hold hands
and pray in tongues.
Father,
please save us,
save us
and you pray in tongues,
pray in tongues,
and one of them led them
into that was directing them.
Now,
you want to imagine a plane is falling.
You could be screaming,
you could be what?
But it depends
on what kind of,
because if you,
you know,
in your situation,
some people scream,
others go straight to prayer,
depending on that.
It's a reflex.
The type of person that you've been.
So,
they began to pray in tongues.
Now,
of that,
of that plane,
crush one person,
survived.
One.
Well.
Now,
this is how the puzzle told the story.
Okay.
They said,
so the pastas dota,
the church that had sent
these kids to do a mission,
the pastas dota was on that plane.
And this guy who survived
was telling the pastas,
what happened on a plane?
Okay.
And he said,
when it began to fall,
his dota told everyone
to start praying in tongues.
And so,
as though praying,
the praying,
the plane is falling,
and just before it hit,
this guy who was talking said,
he saw everyone slam into their seats,
except him.
Wow.
So,
it's like their spirits had been taken
before the impact.
The crash.
Yeah.
And this is why I need you to understand
that the death of a saint is not
the same.
From the physical,
it looks like it's the same,
but it's not the same.
Wow.
It's rough for the unbeliever.
I'll drag you.
I'll show you the
part of the scripture
that talks about that.
It talks about turmoil,
wrath,
for the unbeliever.
It's a bad experience.
So, first of all,
they will feel all the pain
that they go through.
Okay.
Then second of all,
even when they're out of the body,
it just continues
and it's multiplied.
Wow.
You see,
it's interesting that in the book of Luke,
it doesn't tell us,
I don't know if I should go in this,
but it doesn't tell us
how the rich man was transitioned.
He just says,
Lazarus,
the angels picked him
and then he says,
Lazarus was,
I mean,
the rich man was buried.
He was just buried.
And I think Jesus was saving us.
The horror of the process.
He didn't want to focus on the darkness,
but something happened in there.
It's a way in which he ended up.
It is destination.
And we'll talk about that when we reach the death of an unbeliever.
And so, you see,
this is how precious all of this,
the death of one of your sins.
Now, on earth,
someone can be sick
and they're going through things.
A believer can be sick.
They could be in a sick bed.
Maybe they had cancer.
You've seen them going through all this pain.
But when it comes to a point of transition,
there's a difference.
They don't die in pain.
I don't know if I'm trying to make myself.
I've had a lot of stories of believers dying in hospitals.
And someone will say,
would start talking to no one.
That's right in the room.
People can't see them.
They've switched from the pain
to something altogether,
especially if they're deeply rooted in God.
And this is an encouragement for anyone who has lost someone.
At the death of the saint is precious.
There's a man of God.
I won't mention his name.
A famous politician in this country here in Uganda
asked to see a man of God.
Six months before he died.
This guy was bedridden.
Somewhere in sub-observe of Kampala, he had cancer.
And when he asked for the man of God to pray for him,
the man of God drove to his house to pray for this politician.
And the man of God told this story.
He said, as I walked in,
because this politician was a bone again, Christian.
He said, as I walked in, I saw people slumped around him.
He was at the point of death.
And he was, you could see he was sickly.
And people were crying in the morning.
It was a mournful environment.
But from the side of the spirit,
the angels were waiting to receive him.
There was glory around him.
And the man of God said, if he had seen what was around him,
he would not ask,
because he had called for the man of God to ask for more time.
So the man of God laid hands on him, prayed for him,
and he lived six moments.
But he said, if only this guy knew.
What was around him at that point?
The delegation from heaven.
You see?
How precious is the death of one of his sins?
So it's not the same thing.
Well, that's very interesting.
That's very interesting.
There's another story.
It gets a, you put me in story mode.
A guy who I think was the man of God,
prophet of his, who told the story when,
when one time he was praying in his house.
And I think it was even a house help or someone
was sleeping in the nearby room.
And then he sensed something was wrong.
And the person was a Muslim, wasn't a believer.
So he walks to go to the room.
And this person had been sleeping in the room, but he died.
So the person sleeping in the room died.
Prophet of his, was in the, was, was in the sitting room,
says something is wrong.
Goes to the room and sees a portal.
And a demon was dragging the guy's soul
inside that dark portal.
The guy was screaming.
Wow.
Now.
So the man of God began to pray,
pray, pray, pray, pray, pray.
And the demon released a guy.
And the spirit got back into the body.
Like, I got one again instantly.
Wow.
Now, now we, we could go on.
There's another story of another man of God
who was trying to, who was, who had gone for mission.
Somewhere.
And found a group of Muslims.
And a Muslim was dying.
There's a Muslim amongst the Muslim was a deathbed.
And a group of Muslims had surrounded him.
And they were praying their prayers.
And this guy was on the sick bed.
Could see a light coming from the man of God.
And he tried to tell those people, let the man of God
through, come through.
But religion played was at the forefront of things.
And the man of God tried to get in, to get the guy to accept Jesus.
The guy wanted.
But his people could not allow him.
So I want you to imagine that kind of
deliverances before you.
But religion has 45 the whole.
So imagine how many people have been stood by that.
I can imagine.
How precious.
And the death of one of your saints.
In the eyes of the Lord.
So I hope I'll put out the description.
It's in relation to alcohol.
But I feel like it's similar to the death experience.
Because it talks about how alcohol will mock you.
So while you're dealing with it, you know,
and beholding its beauty in the cup.
Or assume this is an unbeliever in life.
It's regarding, you know, God and purpose.
You know, there is sweetness to that whole experience.
But once you transition off to the other side,
it just mocks you.
Because you're done falling in trenches.
You're done with the wounds.
You know.
If you finally get to look to a robe,
all bad things are just totally exposed at that point.
You know?
But you are, you know, you are in tango dancing together
before, but when the transition happens,
it just mocks you, laughs at you.
Not it.
And you see the thing is that the way the spirit world
sees age here and earth is different from the way we see it.
In the sense that a person could have an appointed death
like Jesus died at 33.
And they say he died young.
From the natural, they'll say he died young.
But heaven doesn't see it like that.
He has lived in a life that is supposed to live here enough.
So it's the fullness of time concerning him.
Whether someone died young, you can die at 90
and you are supposed to die at 100 and something.
And you have died too early.
You have died young.
I'm going to heaven.
From a spiritual perspective.
So let's not use natural perspectives concerning these things.
Yeah.
Now, I want to bring out something.
Ecclesiastes 12.
You're going to read this verse seven again.
Yes.
Yes, yes.
More verse seven.
The truth then says, then shall that dust return to the earth.
Now, here's what happens.
That the moment what I'm going to bring out here is important.
That the moment someone dies, the law there is that the dust returns to the earth.
Okay.
It is the law.
Then the spirit returns to God who gave it.
To God who gave it.
And this would touch into what we were talking about last time when we said that the
Spirit of a man goes to God.
Yes.
Now, the part I want to focus on is the fact that it says the dust returns to the earth.
It's such an important factor that there are people whose bodies remain in mugs.
There are people whose bodies that dust the body does not return to dust.
And that's partly the reason why some spirits remain here.
Okay.
I hesitate, but it's what I'm telling you is true that the law is when the dust, the first
process is that the dust must return to dust.
Then the spirit returns to the Lord.
Okay.
That's the process.
Okay.
And that's why you find a scripture says that the rich man was buried.
Then.
Yeah.
Any transition.
Okay.
And the reason I believe it doesn't say, as a source buried is because he probably had no
one to bury him.
To bury him.
Okay.
But the process of death is that dust must return to dust.
Remember when Jesus dies?
Okay.
Yeah.
Actually, before he dies, he's on the cross and he says, Father, I commit my spirit until
he dies.
But then he descends.
Then when he ascends, actually he doesn't ascend.
He resurrects.
Then he says, do not touch me for him yet to ascend.
But yet at the cross he said, I commit my spirit.
Okay.
You get rid of him.
Now, notices is, do not touch me for I am yet to ascend.
The reason he could not yet ascend is because, because now for him is different, because
he's a, is a precursor of what it's supposed to be like at the resurrection that he got a new
body.
Yeah.
Okay.
So when he descended, his body was still in the tomb in, in the tomb.
Okay.
And he could not ascend to the Father because in essence, dust must return to dust.
But in his case, it was a new body altogether.
Okay.
Then he, then he could ascend.
Then he could ascend.
Now, there are things that keep that one of those things is the failure.
I'm not, I'm not even talking about burying for a body to return to dust.
And there are a number of things people don't understand.
That spirits are looking for bodies alive or not.
Yeah.
How do we know that?
Because the devil was asking for Moses' body.
Yeah.
Is that contention with Angel Michael?
Is he?
Yeah.
And I assure you, I assure you that one of the ways in the last days that the anti-craze
or for miracles is by using bodies that supposedly had been left behind by people and
something else to enter.
Wow.
And it will be shown as a resurrection.
So even the bodies that is after a particular body, yeah, particular ones.
You could say that Elijah's body would have been one that he sought after was given the
fact that it still had the potency of life and power within it.
Even though the man had been thrown in the pit.
Yeah.
So, dust must return to dust.
I'm telling you that's why certain, it's one reason why there are certain spirits that,
um, hover around.
Now, the reason why they believed that a spirit hovered around for a few days is because
the body started decomposing after those days.
The dust, dust, the dust process was happening.
So, then it can, it can take off.
This is the reason why I tell you that some things remain within the vicinity of the earth.
Yeah.
And also, and it's not really, I really, a person can be gone.
But a portion of them can still be left here enough.
It's almost like a, what we call, duo existence.
Okay.
Where the energy and the man in which they died created such trauma that a portion of them
still, is still here.
Okay.
It's, it's an energy thing.
That's because of the way it's attached to the consciousness of the man.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, it could be an angry hate hearing itself.
So, either the body has not returned to dust, the man in which a person dies.
Okay.
Or an unfinished piece of work.
That even though a spirit has gone, there's a portion of that person's consciousness
that can still manifest itself in this world.
And until, maybe a person is buried, until a particular thing is dealt with, that, that, that energy.
It's not necessarily the person, the energy, it's still around.
And it can manifest itself in people, into things and in places.
Those are the instances of people who are supposed to have, you know, going,
because we assume they died in many of us and they are giving instruction of,
they that way, you know, is this papa here, this book here.
And you see, I've told people enough times that in scripture that by the way, what does it say?
Jesus never, never corrects the disciples.
When he was walking on water, they said, it's a ghost.
He did not see a ghost, he did not exist.
Okay.
He shows up in their room in the middle of nowhere after he has resurrected.
And they say, it's a ghost, it says, a ghost does not have flesh and blood.
Okay.
Now, the rendering there is spirit, but they're referring to someone who,
who died and they're still around.
That's what they're referring to.
Okay.
They're not referring to a spirit demon, they're referring to someone who died
and he's still around.
And he says, a ghost or whatever rendering spirit does not have flesh and blood.
He doesn't say, he doesn't say, he doesn't say those things don't exist.
Yeah.
Because believe you, may they exist.
Yeah.
They're there for various reasons.
They're people and cultures that will conjure up the spirits of people to ensure that they stay around.
Okay.
They'll do something.
They'll do some ritual things and they'll build up soul, the person's soul to a spirit.
Okay.
And they're things and I really don't want to go because no one needs to know that.
If you're born again, you don't need to know how they do those things.
But they're rituals that can be done to keep the semblance of someone's being floating around.
This is the equivalent of familiar spirits.
Yeah.
Okay.
So there are different types of familiar spirits.
There are familiar spirits that are a demonic and those are those are the majority.
Okay.
Then there are familiar spirits that are spirits that existed here on earth who worked amongst
the men, but are still walking the earth.
Okay.
Now, if we knew that this world that we're living in has more spiritual beings than we...
Spiritual population is higher than...
Higher than God.
They said there are seven billion human beings on the face of this earth.
They'll do seven billion.
A large percentage of them are not human.
A large section of them are not human.
Why?
To become...
To be labeled as man.
You must be born of a woman.
That's one.
Okay.
Number two, you must have a spirit soul and body.
Okay.
Very, very important.
Even if we just use those two, now their beings on this earth who are born or woman,
that do not have spirit soul body because the spirit comes from God.
Okay.
So they are born here illegally.
Okay.
They would take the semblance of a human being, but they have...
Actually, they don't have a soul.
Okay.
They don't have a soul.
The human soul.
Okay.
Because you remember animals have souls and they don't have the human soul.
Okay.
So they walk at the face of this earth looking like that, but they are not.
Some come from the sea.
Some come...
I will show you that the Bible talks about...
Where they are dressing a bit, but there is...
There are beings that are on the earth.
They are beings in the earth.
And they are beings under the earth.
And it's all scripture for another...
Okay.
So on is us.
Plus the others who are masquerading in their beings in the earth.
And their beings under the earth.
And the same thing is on the...
With the sea, their scriptures talk about on the sea and in the sea.
So you must understand that we are many.
Okay.
I need to get on with this because I have digress a bit.
The human being, Ephesians chapter 2 verse 6.
Then we wind up.
Okay.
Ephesians chapter 2 verse 6.
It's 6 to 7.
Okay.
6 to 7.
And has raised us up together and made us see together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus.
That in the ages to come he made sure the exceeding reaches of his grace in his kindness
toward us through Christ Jesus.
So what I need you to understand is that human beings are not a progression.
And this is where we will touch it in the next session.
They are not a progression.
Before us there were ages.
Okay.
Romans chapter 1 talks about ages past.
We are in the present age.
Okay.
But there are ages to come.
Multiple.
This is what people need to understand.
That in those ages to come he will do what?
Read it.
Ephesians 2, 6 to 6.
It reads and says that and has raised us up together and made us sit together in heavenly
places in Christ Jesus.
That in the ages to come he made sure the exceeding reaches of his grace in his kindness
toward us.
Okay.
So in ages to come multiple ages.
That's when we're going to be shown what grace we have been shown.
That's when we're going to be reached again.
It's such a powerful scripture.
Verse 7 says that in the ages to come he made sure the exceeding reaches of his grace
is kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
So we're going to be shown the exceeding reaches of his grace not just in the next age.
Ages to come.
And he's referring to when he says of his grace he's referring to that grace shown to us
when Jesus died on the cross.
So this stuff we're saying our grace allows us to see in grace allows us you're looking
so my your pick because it's going to take ages to reveal the exceeding reaches of that
grace.
Yeah.
Wow.
Okay.
Which then means that we are in a progression of learning that even after we leave this
earth, we shall continue to learn things.
That's why the Bible says John 17.3 says to no God is eternal life.
And since God cannot be fully known, eternal life is an eternal experience.
You're constantly learning.
Yeah.
At this time you're coming to the knowledge of the truth.
Okay.
And see when Paul says now we see we see in part, we prophesy in part we know in part
then shall we be known even as we are known.
Okay.
He's not talking about the moment you die.
You know, you've been known as you know.
That's what Christians think.
He's talking about then.
He's talking about a particular point in time.
When you reach and you know, you know as you are known and it's a progression.
It's not going to happen once.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
It does.
Yeah.
Because people think that the moment you leave your body, oh finally, now I know all things.
That's not how it is.
That the level of knowledge that you have here on earth from a spiritual perspective will
determine the grade that you begin at.
This is so, so, so, so important.
Okay.
I want to touch two, maybe two more things and then we will close.
Okay.
Yeah.
Psalms 24 verse 7 to 9.
Psalms 24.
Verse 7 to 9.
It says lift up your heads or you get and be a lift up your everlasting doors and the king
of glory shall come in.
Who is the king of glory?
The Lord, strong and mighty, the Lord mighty in battle.
Okay.
So that scripture saying lift up your heads or you get here, huh?
Or you everlasting doors and it says so the king of glory shall come in.
Now this scripture is referring to the point when Jesus resurrected.
Okay.
And I want you to understand that from a spiritual perspective there gates that when a person
leaves the body.
Okay.
You don't just, they're entrances.
Just like when Jesus said, the gates of hell shall not be there.
There's a reason their gates, their plural, their many.
Okay.
And when an unbeliever dies, he goes through one, no, no, no.
One of those gates that determine the damnation.
Okay.
No, no, everyone has the appointed this.
Yes, now you're getting it.
Now the reason why for Jesus, all the gates lifted up is because he had achieved all
righteousness concerning every single one of them.
Okay.
Because well, for the nonbeliever, the damnation is a particular place.
For the believer, all the gates refer to areas of reward and fulfillment.
Okay.
And Jesus fulfilled all righteousness, the Bible says.
So all the gates lifted up.
Okay.
It says, lift up your head so the gates, all you everlasting doors.
So in the spirit world, there are entrances.
This is so important that there are entrances and levels.
And as you progress in God, there are gates that are open to you.
That this is so important for them to tell you.
Okay.
Now that's why later when there's a new heaven and new earth, it says, the new
Jerusalem is said, and that new Jerusalem has 12 gates.
Yes.
Okay.
That new Jerusalem is not the one now.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's the one that will come with this and new heaven and the new earth and the new
earth.
It's a new Jerusalem that will have 12 gates, those gates, the foundation stones, the
tribes of Israel and the gates are named as the names of the apostles, according to scripture.
Yeah.
Even those gates, they are there for reason.
They're not for decoration.
Wow.
This is why I'm trying to tell you that you will leave this ad.
You will based on your level of your relationship with God.
Find yourself at a certain realm.
And that realm to access it will have a gate.
Okay.
Yes.
Just like from the, you know, all these things that we use on this earth are
replica of something in the Spirit.
Yes.
And I told you just as you need a visa to go to the U.S.
Don't just think anyone who dies can go anywhere.
Okay.
They are at this access that is granted based on glory, on that given to a man.
Now you say in Christ Jesus, all things have been given to you.
I want you to understand this.
It says we're seated in heavenly places of Christ Jesus.
It says heavenly places, not the heavenly place.
Okay.
So there are multiple realms.
And each realm, Christ is seated.
And we are all seated in those heavenly places with Christ Jesus.
Okay.
Each realm when you leave this earth is a realm of progression.
And I'll show it to you.
I'll show it to you.
I'll prove it to you through scripture.
Okay.
So quickly, I've told you that the non-believer passes through, also passes through gates.
Okay.
That will be done in his determination, except for him, the gate that he goes through,
because they're not rewards, he doesn't need to progress through it.
Okay.
Yes.
This is domination.
It has been set before the foundations.
Okay.
It has been set for him based on how he lived on earth.
Okay.
So he finds himself somewhere.
It's the reason why some people, when they die, they fall down a tunnel and find themselves
somewhere.
They get so all different.
Some will find themselves in fire burning, others in absolute desolate, because they're
different dimensions of hell.
And hell in itself is not just a, it's not the destination.
We know the destination is for the non-believer.
Oh, yes, yes.
It's the lake of fire.
It's not hell.
Okay.
So right now, in the dimension that they call hell, they're various places with various
gates and entries into those places.
And those places have different people based on how they lived on earth.
In the heaven is as well based on your rank and your work with God, they're entry points.
Each to a different realm.
And you will see, you will know, you will see it.
Just because you're born a Christian.
And just because you said, in the name of Jesus, just before you died,
there's not mean you'll be able to access every other realm.
You'll have to grow on progress.
Okay.
I think.
Okay.
We're going to wind that up for today.
Yeah.
I think I'll resolve my questions for an accession.
But it's been a very beautiful discussion.
A lot to learn.
And a lot has been learnt indeed.
We thank you guys for those that are tuning in.
This is the RDM radio show.
Derek Muhiro, also known as Derek the priest.
And you've been listening to the rabbi Daniel Malinga.
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And then that's the Lord bless you and enjoy your time.