And even love you, love by father.
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My heart only beats for you from precious Jesus.
And even love you, Lord.
Welcome, welcome, welcome to the R.D.M. Radio.
I'm your host Derek Muirwa, what's known as Derek Caprist, and I'm here with Daniel Malinga.
Yes, this is the show where we talk about deep spiritual mysteries.
Of course, we cover papa's and identity, but here we are allowed to go a bit beyond those
boundaries and confines where we talk about deep spiritual mysteries, things that you may
may not necessarily find within the confines of your church or at the podium, things
that are not necessarily talked about, but these are real life experiences that people have.
And to start with, to develop about the concept of death, the transition that happens.
We got a question and someone asked saying that I recently lost a loved one, one dear to
me.
And since then, I haven't been able to take my mind off the concept of death and what happens
after me.
Well, they ask and say, please help me understand the process of life after death.
Well, that's welcome, Daniel Malinga.
Thank you. Thank you.
Derek, I think in relation to that question, we're going to have to just do a preamble.
So, because the person asking the question seems to think that it's a one-sentence,
one session answer, but there is more to that than the mind can comprehend.
And so, I'm requesting we're going to do a preamble for this session and then you'll see that
since it consists of a lot of things, we have to answer them gradually and we'll see how far we go.
Because the question of life after death has a lot of facets to it.
If you could read for me, Revelation chapter 10 and verse 4,
I'll show you my mind towards answering this question.
Revelation chapter 10, verse 4, it says, and when the seven thunders had uttered their voices,
I was about to write, and I had a voice from heaven saying unto me,
seal up those, he's saying, that seal up those things which the seven thunders had heard.
Now, the reason why I've asked you to read that scripture is because
a lot of things concerning earth and the spirit world that showed it in mystery.
Because a lot of things that showed it in mystery, the restriction of things that God
is wisdom has hidden. And this verse and this chapter in the book of Revelation gives us
just one example of that. I was saying that John had a seven thunders saying something
and God told him not to write it. Knowledge in the spirit world is a privilege.
Well, not everything is for everyone to know. And that's the reason why I'm going to relate
to the question on life after death. Knowledge is a privilege. There are a lot of things that
are hidden because you need to qualify in a naturally in life. Even on earth, yeah, there's certain
truths. If you want access to them, you need to be privileged enough, you need to qualify to
get access to them. For example, government secrets and all that, the spirit world is the same.
Truth is wide and it has levels and there's some things that are secret and a hidden.
Secondly, knowledge is time-based. What do you mean? It's time-based.
If you read the book of Daniel chapter 12 and verse 4, the book of Daniel chapter 12 and verse 4.
Here we go, Daniel chapter 12 and verse 4 says,
But thou or Daniel shut up the words and seal the book even to the time of the end.
Many shall run to and fro. Knowledge shall be increased.
So Daniel is told to seal the seal up a truth that was given to him
until a particular point of time. So there, there are hidden truths that have time periods.
And so there are things we have learnt about us, about ourselves as human beings over time
because heaven has allowed or has removed the seals of certain truths.
And so when it comes to the question of life of life of the death,
the answer can never be totally comprehensive because there are things that are secret and that are
hidden. It consists of a number of things. Let's start. Let me show you what it consists of.
If we're going to talk about life of the death, we cannot talk about life of the death without
first talking about life before birth. You understand? Because according to scripture,
the thing that has been is the thing that shall be. And so life is circular in nature.
And because it's circular, that means there is something about life before birth that can tell us
about life after death. It gave me. And so if we talk about life before birth,
we also have to talk about life on earth. Before we talk about life after death,
because life before birth plays into life on earth, which plays into life after death.
Now, let's just look at the concept of life before birth.
This is what we'd have to look into. We have to dive into for you to understand life of life
after death. You have to look at not just your pre-existence, to understand your pre-existence
where you are, what you are doing before you came onto this earth. You have to first understand
Adam's pre-existence because all men are drawn from Adam. If we can answer the question of what Adam
was doing before he came onto earth, then it will help us feed into what we do before we come
onto this earth. Secondly, we also have to look at the chief example of the pre-existence of Christ.
So we don't just look at Adam, Adam's pre-existence, and his creation, we have to look at the
pre-existence of Christ and see if we can land certain things from there that feed into
why certain things happen the way they do. Jeremy, chapter 1, verse 5, very famous scripture.
Jeremy, chapter 1 verse 5, says that before I formed you in the belly, I knew you,
and before you came forth out of the womb, I sanctified you, and I ordained you a prophet
unto the nations. So this scripture is one of the most vital scriptures used to help understand
life before birth. And you see the way the Bible was written is that God, by His wisdom,
purposefully, did not write everything or did not put everything inside the Word of God.
And like I've said, for the two major reasons, one, because knowledge is a privilege,
and you need to qualify for it, but true, because some knowledge is time. It's sealed for a period
of time. And so when we're looking through scripture, a lot of truths are scattered all over the
Bible, they're not just in one paragraph or one verse and so on and so forth. Secondly, the Bible
is written in layers. So a person could look at a scripture and look at it again, and it could tell
you something that you did not see before. So when we're looking at life before birth,
because we're going to touch this, I just want to show you what consists of before we touch life
after death. When you look at life before birth, you have to factor in destiny. The question is,
the life that we live, is it destiny or fate? That's important, because if it's fate,
the way it plays into life after death is different. Destiny is chosen. Destiny means you have a
choice. Fate means you have no choice. So there's always been that balance of argument in that
church and religion generally, that did you have a choice in coming here? Do you have a choice
in the outcome? What happens after? We need to have a clear discussion on that before we answer,
oh, what's the process of life after death and what the Bible explicitly says about that?
Questions, I told you, I'm just looking at life before birth. Questions will have to look at
how did you look like before you came? How did you look like? That's a very, very important question,
because to answer the question of life after death, there is a way you look like before you came
and there's a way you look like after you came. I don't know if you haven't noticed that
publicly after you die, you have a body, a new body. Notice when Jesus died and resurrected. The
Bible says they went to where he was buried and his body was not there anymore. If his body was
not there anymore, that means the Spirit took on the body, he had and changed it to renew it.
You get what I'm saying. So even this body, if you look at the resurrection of the dead,
the bodies that were under the waters and in the ground, the people occupy them again,
they just take on a different form. But when you came, you did not have a body. So what did you
look like? You see what I'm talking about. You have an answer to that. That's very interesting.
I've had that there is the concept of your Spirit being the outer embodiment of who you are.
And when the fall happened, then it's like your Spirit was sucked up on the inside of you.
In that now, your physical self was what you are conscious of.
It's an interest. You know, because the reason why I bring that out there,
you know, if you get out of your body, you look exactly like your body. Yes.
So before you came, what did you look like?
You see, that's the point that I'm trying to bring across it. Because that also answers
into the fact of what happens after you die. We're talking about matters of preconception
before you were conceived and your mother's been, that's what Jeremiah says. I knew you.
So what happened before conception? What happened during conception? And what happened
after after? That plays into the answer that we're going to give it. Okay.
Ask yourself a question. When you're brought onto this earth, we're just dealing with life before
but you're brought onto this earth. Is your life in due to individualistic or is it corporate in nature?
May that I mean everything that you do. Does it just affect you in the afterlife?
Or are there people and things tied to your particular life? So when you fail, others are
in effect. Yes, report is report. All right. Okay. Another thing someone needs to consider.
When you were in spirit form before you came onto this earth,
where are you? Because some people say we're in heaven. All right. But then you have to answer
the question of you are in Adam when he's in. I feel in Adam when he's sinned.
Okay. It's just a question. I need you to ask him that if you were in Adam when he's sinned,
the Bible says all I've sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.
The Bible says through one man, sin came. If you are in Adam when he's sinned,
why are you in heaven before you came onto earth? Or let's use another scripture. The Bible says
in Hebrews chapter seven, it says, it says, Levi received faith through Abraham. He was in the
loins of Abraham. So how can he be in the loins of Abraham for generations before he's born at the
same time being heaven? I don't know if you're, you're getting the question that I'm asking you.
And it's, please understand, I'm not saying you want in heaven. I'm just throwing it there because
we have to discuss it. It's a very important, important fact. We have to also consider the part in
scripture. Isaiah, the Bible says, he's taken up to the heaven and he has God ask, who shall I send?
Okay. Who is he talking to? Is he talking to angels? If he's talking to angels, it would imply
that when Isaiah was sent, he took an angels assignment. Are you getting what I'm saying? Yes, yes.
He has six feet. He says, what's why I had the voice of the Lord saying, who shall I send?
And who will go for us? Then I said, here I am, send me. So Isaiah takes on the assignment.
If that assignment was meant for angels and elders in the spirit world,
Isaiah took an assignment meant for an angel and elder. And the second question is, when God is
making that announcement, there must have been other people there. Right? Who is he talking to? And
what does that say about pre-existed? And is it possible? I'm just throwing out there that that
question is announced in the heaven is concerning people before they come here now.
Who shall I send? Okay. Okay. All right. And that's just looking at life before before
Buddha. Because remember, the process of coming into this world tells us a lot about the process after
Isaiah complicated things are because death in itself is a deep mystery. The Bible relates it
to sleep. Right? And so the question that a person has asked is not an easy one to answer. And so
if we're going to answer it, two major things are important. First is the word of God and the spirit
of God. Because these are the major authorities here on earth that we use to get answers concerning
particular things. But secondly, we must consider the experiences of people here on earth.
All right. All right. So if we're going to answer the question of life after death and life
before bath, we must consider the experiences also true to help us give us direction.
Have you ever considered, for example, I know a few people who before they got pregnant,
they have a dream of a child telling them, I'm coming or a vision. Okay. What does that tell us about
life before bath? There are mothers who have dreamt of their child looking a particular way,
acting a particular way. And when the child is born, looks exactly like that. What does that tell you?
Is luck involved in conception or the process of conception is just shaping something or someone
who's looked, whose emotions was already set before the foundation of time.
Okay. You have something to say on that. Okay. What about what about
the issue of near death experiences?
These are the experiences that people have had. Someone maybe was involved in an accident
died. Everyone who dies or who has had a near death experience has a different, different scenario.
Yeah. Some people when they die, they get out of their bodies. Some people when they die,
they end up in darkness. Some people are before light. Some people see a being come to them.
Why the differences? So if you're asking me the question, what happens after death?
I can't give it a whole, some answer because different people have different
experiences. So you have to fuck that in. What exactly is the purpose of near death experiences?
What do they tell us? Do none believe us? Have the same near death experiences as believers?
Are there believers who have died and found themselves in absolute darkness?
What does that say?
I have a feeling I'm just going to raise a lot more questions, but I'm trying to
fuck during the person who asked the question need to understand how deep this question is.
What about the issue of ghosts? Ghosts. That's everyone who died.
Everyone who dies, they leave this earth. They go to either heaven or hell. What about the question
of puggerter? Does it exist? What does the Bible have to say about it? All right?
Yes. All right. All right, guys. And they're like, I remember there's a lady, I told this story
in fellowship at some point. There's a lady who came to me. She comes from Fort Porto.
And told me that there's a certain place in Fort Porto where at midnight,
during certain times of the year, you know, you just hear a crowd of people passing by
and everyone in that particular area knows about them, but they're invisible. You can't see
them. You just hear their voices. What is that? Are these spirits that eat demons? If they
demons, they're really bored, huh? Walking by, singing songs, meanwhile. How do you explain that?
How do you explain? Someone taking a walk one day or the in their house alone and a grandfather
who passed the way shows up? Is that a demon? Is it a spirit? There are people who have dreams
in the night and someone who passed the way shows up to them and gives them instruction? Do the
people who have walked past the line of life here on earth have access to come back at their own will?
Wow. The answer to that question will help us also answer the issue of soul
trying to conjure up somewhere. Oh, yes. Was it somewhere? Or was it another spirit? There's such an
argument in in in in in church and if okay, let's just say either way. What causes a lot of debate
about this particular issue is because it was the which of endo that conjure up a person. There's a
which have that much power to be able to access a spirit that left this world and is in the presence
of God. Okay, someone would say was in Abraham's bosom depending on on what we have to touch that
as a which of the ability to pick someone from Abraham's bosom or heaven or wherever he is
and conjure him up. Shall I read it? Yes. Last Samuel 28
was 11. This is somewhere before the which then she said then say the woman whom shall I bring up
unto thee and he said bring me up Samuel and when the woman so Samuel she cried with a loud voice
and the woman's back to Samuel to soul saying why has thou deceived me but thou art so
yeah. So this this is a very strange scenario in scripture and many ministers either pass
and give a lot of their opinions and this is why I said along with the word of God experiences
important because there are people who have had the encounters there are people who God has revealed
some of these things that can give us some facet of truth and give us an aspect of an
understanding of what exactly happens when a person leaves this earth. Okay, what about the question
of reincarnation? So when you leave do you come back and you know what form do you come back?
Okay, so if you ask me what happens after death what about the reincarnation? Is it biblical?
Okay, I mean there's a story of a lady called Dorothy Edie I've told this story before
she was an Egyptologist at the age of three she fell down the stairs broke her neck and died
this is recorded. Her parents left her body in a room where she had broken her neck
and prepared funeral arrangements. She was there for three hours covered by a cloth or something
suddenly she gets up. When she gets up she is not the person who died.
She says she was a person who lived in ancient Egypt.
This is a three hour ago. The parents tried to take her to consular as what was she kept on
insisting. I don't know what I'm doing here. You're not my parents. No, I'm someone else.
Now here's the thing for years she maintained that one day a father takes her to a museum in London.
She goes to a section that has to do with ancient Egypt looks at the picture and points and says
that's my home. That's a specific picture. She had never been to Egypt. She's about 12 years old
at this time. They get on a plane, take her to Egypt. She helped Egyptologists to discover
places that had not yet been discovered. She would go and point, dig here. Wow.
This is a recording. There is Dorothy E. D. A. D. Y. Dig here. Dig here. She spoke fluent
ancient Egyptian fluent. So she could read the hieroglyphic and it was it could not be explained.
She lived to be 80 something and died. She became a professional Egyptologist because by nature,
she understood Egypt, she knew where the things were and the things were buried.
How do you explain that?
Go and where did this one come from?
Yeah. If that's a spirit, it's a spirit that has been around for a while. Enter the person
and possess. She was literally possessed. You can say that for all her life from three years old until
80 something.
How do you talk about that? I told you guys of a story how a couple of years back my grandfather passed
away and when after he had been buried my aunt, what that time must have been in her 18 years old
close to 20s early 20s. When sitting in the room and this is right after the burial,
suddenly she starts talking in his voice. People start to freak out. It's a spirit, it's a spirit.
Talks in his voice, he starts correcting everyone like he used to. Then he starts giving directions.
I've left my will here. Go this, you find this here and everywhere he said that's where the thing was.
She remained like that until later the next day when she collapsed woke up and asked for something
to eat and the spirit or whatever it was was gone. So what is that? Is that a demon? If someone has died,
is it possible that their people when they die, they don't directly go to heaven or hell?
Is it possible? We had this discussion with you. I was telling you that the issue of life of the
death. The Bible says the pointed for each month day once and then judgment that people think that
means once you die, judgment takes place. But it's like saying after birth death, but in between
life, after in between birth and death, their stages. Yes. Okay. So in the same way in between
death, life and death and judgment, their stages. Interesting.
This is what we're asking. What about the issue, the issue of rewards?
Yes. Punishment and rewards. What is it based on? Are you punished right after you die?
Or is there a period of time? For that, we have to consider also the factor of God's plan.
How does Peter's destination play into this? Because if they are books written,
concerning the people that are coming, the days that you're supposed to live and all that,
the plans and he says, I know the plans I have for you. All this seems to be orchestrated in
Scripture that there's no one who comes on this earth for. All right. Now, if that is true,
then am I responsible for the things I do on earth?
Interesting. Interesting. That means even rewards and
judgment, so punishments are not necessarily limited to one person. They are sort of something
that is going to be shared. We're going to go into that. There are so many, some things
who have to leave them out because of the fact of time generally. But you have to answer that question.
All right. What about there's a Scripture in John? Look for it. Where Jesus says,
they are those who are born by the will of God, born by blood. I think it's John chapter 3.
Now, if someone can be born of the will of God, someone can also be born
not for the will of God. Yeah, I want you to read that Scripture.
So it's an interesting thing that I think we need to attach all this is a preamble and then we'll
start breaking it down into. We'll start with life before birth. We'll start with life before
birth and start to sip into. And in life before birth, we'll look at Adam. Okay, this is John,
chapter 1 was starting. I'll start from, I'll start from 12. He says, but as many as received
them to them, gave him power to become sons of God, even to them that believed on his name,
verse 13 says, which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of
man, but of God. Yes. So he's talking about a certain section of people who are not born first of
the blood. Secondly of the flesh, the will of man. And then there is God. Okay, that means there's a
section of people actually born of the will of man. And this is what you need to understand it.
It's a very, very sensitive place to touch, but God is telling us that they're both who are
born of the will of God. Okay, we'll have to define what exactly does it mean to be born again?
Because when you get born again, which part gets born again?
Spirit. Yeah. So if it's the spirit that gets born again, and the term is born again, yes,
then there was an initial bath of the spirit. Yes.
You get if it was, if you if born again was referring to the body, yeah, that means you
be born the second time in your body. Yeah, physical, yeah, physical balance, yeah, but born again
is a reference to the spirit. Yes. So there has to be an initial spiritual bath. Yes.
Now when you ask a question, you see, you see how much we have to touch. What about the concept
resurrection? We touch this. So when a person resurrects, when someone prays for someone and they
come back to life, was their spirit still in their waiting for them to come back to life,
if they had gone somewhere, how was that spirit taken from wherever it was to come back into the
body? Then why do the people who pray for dead bodies, and nothing happens, struggle to resurrect
someone? What is there something there that we don't understand? Yes. Okay. Now let's look at Jesus
four days after Lazarus had died. Four days, if your spirit leaves your body, ways Lazarus. Okay,
let's say he's in heaven, or let's say he's in Abraham's bosom, or wherever. He says, Lazarus,
come forth. Right? By this time, four days, his body was smelling. Yes. Okay. The Bible says it.
The flesh was rotting. So the miracle is greater than just his spirit coming back into his body.
The body must be regenerated. Yes. The brain must be reformed, the heart that was rotting,
that had stopped, must come back to life, the blood that had dried. I see in the number of miracles
that must happen with the resurrection. That's why it's the highest level of miracle that can happen
after salvation. So when someone resurrects, then what? If they've resurrected and they've come back to
this life, how do you attach, how do you explain that and the scripture that says it's appointed
for each man to die once? Yes. That means they're going to die. That's the second day. It's the
second time. So how do you explain that? If it's appointed for each man to die once and a man
died and they resurrected him, then what? Now, how do you play that also into those who will not see
death? Oh, yeah. That scripture says it's appointed for each man to die once. One day there's a
rupture coming. There are people who will not see death. There are even people on earth working right
now who have not seen death. How do you factor that in? Well, that's why I am certain that everyone's
life after death is different. Yes. Can't be a one. Yes. And it's not Christian. I don't know how to
explain it. That the moment you leave the room of men, you have left the room of religion. Yes.
Christianity initially Christians were called, you know what they were called? They were called the
way. The way. The way. Yeah, the way. Those who propagated the way. That's what they were called
before the before until. They were called the way. Because the way the truth and the life, the path
to the truth. They were called the way. Then it was none believers who called them Christians.
For someone who doesn't know how they're anti-ocuses recorded in the scriptures in the book of
access, the first place where they referred to Christians as Christians. Before that, they had
another name which we have just come to know right now as the way. A new gun and research about
what I'm telling you is true. There's a part in scripture where Paul talks about he says we've been
propagators of the way. And so when you get all this, you realize that religion, Jesus never
called himself a Christian. Yes. Yeah, you'll say he's the Christ. He's the Christ fine, but he did not
come to propagate a religion. He came to propagate a spiritual truth, so to say. When a person
leaves this earth, when you get out of your body and you go to whatever destination.
What about the issue of rank? What about the issue of assignment? What about the issue of a
bud, the Bible says in my father's house, there are many mansions. How does that play into? The Bible
talks about a book of life, a book of tears, all these books that somehow play into destiny. What
about stars? Yeah. Interesting. And the fact that the wise men were able to look at a star and
conclude the destiny of the Christ throughout star. So is it possible that creation is playing
into telling us what our role is here on earth? And that well, many of us are fighting to know what
our papa's understanding is that the chief papa's understanding must be drawn from that that was
given to Adam, which is what subject they have. Be fruitful, multiply, dominate, subjudi. That is the
chief. So before you find out your original call, you are here must first go to the person who was
given the call to all men. So there's no man alive who that does not apply to. It's a general assignment.
So I say, am I supposed to be engineer first start from?
Be fruitful, multiply, dominate, subdue. You start from that and you start from that from a mindset
perspective. Before you go into all this, all that I've said, you have any questions, everything to
say. Wow. It's a very broad topic. It's a very broad topic and interesting to hear more from the
experiences of people who are not necessarily Christian. Because it breaks the boundaries of religion
and it allows us to go beyond, okay, to have an open hatch, you know, the Bible says that that you
can't really know God except it rose you to himself. So if you're stuck to your Bible and you're
like, for instance, what it says, it can't be any other way, then you're going to be caught up in a
box where God is trying to relate with you in a much deeper way, but you have not allowed him to do
that. So I'm very, very interested, you know, I mean, think about it. How many times have you
gone to sleep in a night and seen yourself? You're talking to yourself. You're met, you're
as a self, you know, they're different kinds of dreams. They're dreams where you're experiencing
their thing and their dreams where you're watching something like a movie. Yeah. Then their dreams
where you encounter you and you can assess that this me that I'm seeing is different from
and sometimes some other people encounter that that you that you've seen. Oh, you came to me,
you're wearing a white suit and you healed me and you know, you know nothing about healing.
So what does that say? Is there another version of you walking around?
Wow. I'm also interested in the topic of the multiverse and this is a concept that has been
propagated a lot in the recent movies, you know, when you talk about another you, you know, how can we,
what's God's mind or God's perspective to this? It's all things that I believe will be touching
us. No, we're going to touch. So we're going to touch as much as possible. This is just like I said,
a preamble. Yes. But I wanted to show you how how brought this, this issue of life after death is
and I'm glad it's the first question that came because then it can feed into other things. A
Christianity is about bath and death and after death. Generally, actually, that's what life is about.
Right? So all this is extremely, extremely important. I mean, we haven't even gone into
the issues of gender, of race. Wow. And how I was telling you the Bible says that numerous times
in the Old Testament, whenever someone dated, said he was gathered to his people, to his people.
And you know, when we have here in Africa, the traditions they said were the person as
dead and is received by his ancestors. I said, it's actually, I'm actually a deep propagate of that
the people who have died in God actually receive you. See here in Genesis 25 verse 8 says that
an Abraham gave up the cost and died in a good old age, an old man and full of years and was
gathered to his people. So even you, when you pass away, you be gathered to your people.
Why? Because before you came onto this earth, the boundaries of your habitation were chosen for
reason, where you're born, your skin color, then it's not that God cares about skin color.
All this is playing somehow into the eternal plan of God. God's plan is not time. God's plan is
and you see, we are squashed into two etanities, the one before time and the one after time.
This earth here, the Bible says it's like a, it's like a, it's like a, you're here, you're here today
going tomorrow. It's a training ground. All of us were brought here for some reason. And some
people fail the training. Now, well, the chief thing is to give your life to Christ and leave
this earth. There are other facets that play into where you be in that life to come because the
story is just beginning. I was telling someone the other day that if you read through the Bible,
you'll find Adam was given an assignment, but he failed before the assignment was completed.
Okay. All right. So from Genesis until now, God is just restoring redemption. That's what's happening.
Then all things will be made new. When all things are made new, then now we go, we, the thing that
was given to us, we start doing it. So we haven't even done it yet. I want you to understand it.
I haven't done it yet. So the story is on pause. I don't know if you get it. It's on pause because
Adam failed. Then when all things are made new, the assignment now continues. This thing is bigger than
we know. Wow. I'll be like, I've said so much. Anything. I have a question as regards to
I know this will talk about definitely as we go along. For example, when Jesus says that
the things that have done great works and these you will also do, is that within the realm of time
as well, because this is the second Adam now speaking. Yeah. So the assumption is that he's speaking
from a place of restoration. Hmm. Yeah. Yes. We should be. It's both. Okay. Both the realm of time
and the realm of time beyond time. Yes. And you see the thing when we say beyond time, we have to
be careful because there is a time in eternity. Okay. There is a time in eternity. Remember in
scripture when the Bible says, what is it? Revelation 8, wait says and those silence in heaven for 30
minutes. If that's the realm of eternity, what is that 30 minutes like? Hmm. Or when scripture says
that those who long for vengeance said Lord, how long shall we wait? Yes. That's where the matter
is under the throne. Yeah. If they're waiting for long, that means where they are, there's some sort
of time. The difference is that it's not the time that it is here, but it's a time. One day when we
teach on time, I'll explain how time itself, there's nothing that God created that is inanimate. Okay. That is
not alive. So it's a being of its own. Yes. There we go. Hmm. It's a being that has two facets. Okay.
One facet, because remember when sin fell on came onto this earth, when Adam fell, everything fell
with him. Okay. So the rocks, the birds, the what that we see now, they're not how they were in the
original glory, just like man. And so time also fell. Okay. And the facet of falling time is called
Cronos chronological time. Wow. Wow. Yeah. So, so, so if we're, if we're, if we're so much, we could
touch on this. If we're to talk about just the concept of life, uh, before birth and life after death,
we'll need like 12 episodes. And I don't know if people have that patience.
But we're going to start. So the next time we're going to start, um, I'm going to go slowly,
uh, based on what we've said or what we've talked about here, or I'm going to encourage people to
also send in comments and questions and so on and so forth. So that when we start on life before
birth, um, we can answer some of them, answer some of them as, as you go as we, we go along. Okay.
Because you know, you know, what about abortion? Okay. Um, if, if, if, if a spirit
that is, is, and I was asking my wife this question the other day, where is the spirit of a man?
This is what I was asking at the beginning. Is it in heaven? Or is it in the loins of Adam or loins of
a man? Because Levi was in the loins of what? Of Abraham. If he was in the loins of Abraham,
then that means there is something about this. All of us take a piece of the original Adam when
we come onto this earth. Okay. It's like man has continued and every time husband and wife get together
and give birth to a child, that child takes a piece from his parents and continues. So all of us have
taken from the original Adam, everyone kept on taking a piece, a piece of piece of piece of his,
like that. So that means there's, there's a part of you in your original, in your parents.
You get rid of them saying? Yes. Yes. And part of them in their grandparents and so on and so forth.
Now it's that's true. And it is, then,
what about the concept of Christ? Yes. It would then tell you, it would then explain to you why
you could not, a man was not involved in his birth. Oh, yes. Because Christ was not in Adam,
you and I were okay. And because he was not in Adam, he can't come through the seed of Adam.
I don't know if you understand, you got to say, yeah, you and I and everyone listening to me
came from Adam, but Jesus was not in him. So he can't be born of the seed of a man.
He has to come from somewhere totally different. Different.
As you are sharing, there is a, you know, and they're talking about the genealogy of Christ.
There are two accounts, I believe. Yes. But one of them speaks of, when they reach Adam,
they refer to him as, you know, son of God, being just like Adam was but from God.
He fell in, there is that aspect of Christ coming straight from God. You know, it's
different lineage, basically. And you see, and you see, we have to, we have to understand because
when Adam fell, we were in him. Yes. All right? Who are in him in such a sense that that
I believe, and I'm, I'm preempting myself here. We talk about life before, but I believe
that all men were in Adam. Yes. And not unconscious. Yes. Yes. My goodness. That's why
when God made Eve, it took her from Adam. Oh, yes. Are you with me? And how she was able to know?
Okay. So, so he took her from Adam. Now, in each one of us, each one of us, we, we come in stages
from Adam because we're all in Adam when he's sinned. I get what I'm saying. It's why I live,
he can receive faith, even though he's not yet born. The only way he can receive faith, if while
he's in Adam is conscious. I mean, I'm becoming a bit controversial because I was asking my wife
this question. I was like, so where is the spirit? That's the spirit entered the seed, the spam.
The spirit can't be in the spam because when two people come together and sleep with each other,
multiple spams are released. Oh, yes. And many of them die. So you tell me all those spirits go back.
The spirit can't be in the spam. The key aspect is is when spam and egg during it, which is
what you call conception. Now something happens there. Yes. We're conscious life comes into existence.
Wow. Now we have to harmonize that, which is true with before spam and egg ever meet,
you're still alive in the man. We have to harmonize those two things. I get what I'm saying.
Because I mean, if you are alive in the man and multiple spams are released, we can't say that
they're all their spirits in every spam. I mean, if some of them don't make it, and only one makes it.
What happens here? Yeah. So yes, there's something miraculous that happened that conception,
but then there is still an existence even before concept. Yeah, good. You're getting it.
And what is that? And that means the question then comes where is that existence?
What does loins mean? That existence cannot be spam.
And to make it absolutely clear, that existence can only exist within a man. Not a woman.
Wow. Okay. Hey.
Right. Right. Anything's now zero gets.
You see? So given that we've utilized one hour or so, I'm going to ask that the next time when we come,
we'll start with the concept of life before, but we'll go slowly touch the few things that we're
supposed to touch and enjoy the discussion. Okay. Wow. Guys, thank you so much for tuning in.
This is our first episode of the RDM Radio Show. This is your host, Eric,
Heroa, who's known as Derek the Priest, and you've been listening to Daniel Binga. Well,
catch you next time. For those that have comments and any reactions, please put them in the comment
section and we'll surely react. We'll get back to you. Thank you so much and God bless you.
My heart, it beats for you from precious Jesus. I'm deep in love with you.